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BKHK



Member Since: 05 May 2008
Location: Perth
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Australia 2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Fuji White

Most of my driving would be classed as city, I live 2 miles from the city centre. I don’t need a 4x4.

But I actually ended up liking the loaner TDV6 / SDV6 RRS more than I liked my own new V8SC which enjoyed living at the dealer more than with me.

I still like the RRS quite a lot. But honestly, I am really enjoying the chuckability of cars, the A4 Allroad around town is proving really good. 18 F80 M3 ZCP
13 A4 Allroad - daily runaround car
2017 V8 SC - Gone after 11 months of ownership from new. Great engine surrounded by cheaply made parts.
2010 RRS V8 Petrol
2015 M3
2014 X6
2013 X5
2009 RRS 2.7
2008 RRS 2.7

Post #585278 Tue Aug 13 2019 2:12am
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fkarim



Member Since: 14 Apr 2012
Location: London
Posts: 2201

United Kingdom 

DangerMouseUK wrote:
With that being said you could just slap some bags of sand in the boot of a Mercedes, stick some winter tyres on it and off it goes. If the LR didn't have winter tyres on it the Mercedes would probably have it licked depending on the type of snow and whether there was any grit on the road.


This is so true. You don’t need a 4x4 to get around in snow, and I am not talking about 1 cm London snow. On ski trips in Austria, Italy and Switzerland, I have seen RWD BMWs, Mercedes and other saloons with winter tyres or snow socks get to the top of mountains via steep roads covered in thick snow. When it comes to stopping in slippery conditions, being lighter, these cars obviously do way better than heavy 4x4s. Despite winter tyres, careful speed and good knowledge of the car’s off-road controls, I have had some scary moments in my RRS when descending snow covered roads while others were cruising past with ease. It was an eye-opener that taught me not to take LR’s marketing claims too seriously.

I haven’t yet used my XC90 in proper snow but in a few cms of snow earlier in the year, it was fine even on all season tyres.

RRS is a very good SUV for many reasons but for a vast majority of people, capability isn’t one of them.

Good luck with your new purchase DMUK Thumbs Up Perhaps I will also be back one day when/if a new model is out but for now, I am enjoying everything non-LR and non-Diesel in my XC90 PHEV. Current: Volvo XC90 T8 Inscription Pro PHEV with some optionals on top
Gone: MY16 RRS2 3.0 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic, Carpathian Grey & Santorini Black Sliding Pano/Ebony & Ivory 2 Tone
Gone: MY13 RRS 3.0 SDV6 HSE Black Edition, Orkney Grey/Ivory
Gone: MY09 RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSE, Santorini Black/Almond

Post #585279 Tue Aug 13 2019 7:50am
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wilf



Member Since: 08 Nov 2012
Location: on the naughty step
Posts: 911

Hi DM, welcome back!

I do hope your SDV6 isn't affected by the oil dilution issue, see here: https://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/topic54370.html

Mine was, despite being used mainly on longer journeys. and it was the fundamental reason for my moving on. Still in the "temporary" puddle jumper that I bought to tide me over and loving it, lol. MY2016 HSE D SDV6 - gone due to fuel dilution problems.

By the age of 50 you have the face you deserve - George Orwell.

Post #585293 Tue Aug 13 2019 12:12pm
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DangerMouseUK



Member Since: 16 Jul 2016
Location: London
Posts: 277

United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Santorini Black

Hey fkarim;

The XC90 was a really great car, it didn't skip a beat in the past 6 months and I didn't really lose that much money on it as it was an ex-demo again (have stopped buying new too expensive).

The T8 with Polestar is a great car make no mistake the only quirk I had with it was that the front wheels had much more power than the back - it was twice as noticeable on the XC60 though and even then it wasn't a bad thing but in Performance mode with traction control turned off it was a fun thing to drive!

I was mainly just getting a bit jittery about where PHEVs are going in the market at the moment, P400e's and T8's tech wise are in a place that I can't quite gauge, so I'm jumping ship to more familiar territory.

Hey wilf;

Thanks Smile

Its a 68 plate registered in Feb 2019 and I hope to have got rid of it before Feb 2022** so will be covered from a warranty point of view or I wouldn't have got it after reading all the posts.

With that being said do LR and the dealer allow rejection for dilution reasons if the car does it quite a lot? Is there a surefire way to tell whether your car does it?

Thanks in advance

Post #585323 Tue Aug 13 2019 9:35pm
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jimbg



Member Since: 29 Jan 2013
Location: By the River Dart
Posts: 961

2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

Not sure about the RRS but the discovery had been sorted with a software update. 2017 Discovery 3.0 HSE Silicon Silver Nimbus interior and a few extra toys

2013 HSE Black, Orkney Grey, Ebony Seats and Ivory Interior SOLD

Post #585324 Tue Aug 13 2019 10:02pm
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DangerMouseUK



Member Since: 16 Jul 2016
Location: London
Posts: 277

United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Santorini Black

I've got 19C or something similar!

Is that the latest or is the fuel dilution a separate software update?

Post #585363 Thu Aug 15 2019 8:44am
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jimbg



Member Since: 29 Jan 2013
Location: By the River Dart
Posts: 961

2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

That is the version of the infotainment system.

You cannot access the software versions of the various engine system modules from the screen.

I would have thought it was fixed on your car, but you will soon know.

Just check the distance to next service and it should drop in line with your usage.
If you have the problem then after a couple of thousand miles it will be asking for a service at the 5-8,000 mile mark rather than the normal 16,000. 2017 Discovery 3.0 HSE Silicon Silver Nimbus interior and a few extra toys

2013 HSE Black, Orkney Grey, Ebony Seats and Ivory Interior SOLD

Post #585366 Thu Aug 15 2019 11:00am
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DangerMouseUK



Member Since: 16 Jul 2016
Location: London
Posts: 277

United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Santorini Black

Cool will keep an eye on it!

First time I've owned the SDV6 in an RRS, only other times I've had this engine were in a Velar, an XF and an XJ.

Driven a few demo ones for longish stints though so no surprises - barring the issues - nice engine for the RRS!

I'm guessing as this is an MY19 car its Euro6d-Temp rated so they've done something extra to it to get the NOX even further down?

Whilst I was waiting for my car to be polished had a go in a SCV8 full size Range Rover, that was nice and in normal non SV-trim it was quite quiet!!! Was impressed with it.

Post #585368 Thu Aug 15 2019 11:54am
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DangerMouseUK



Member Since: 16 Jul 2016
Location: London
Posts: 277

United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Santorini Black

This new inline 6 Ingenium Engine that's apparently coming in MY21 for the Defender, do you think that will make it into this generation Range Rover Sport?

Would be an interesting engine to see in a Sport I think, do the Ingenium engines suffer from dilution?

Post #585496 Sun Aug 18 2019 12:54am
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Renaco



Member Since: 28 Jul 2011
Location: Bavaria
Posts: 288

i6 RRS are out there since 2 Months.

It was an option for me, but then I heard it’s just a bit better than the outgoing V6 and not as refined in vibration and sound like the competition.

The i4 was such a disappointment, in sound, vibrations and fuel consumption in my P400e, means I think still SDV6 and V8 engines are my suggestions for the best actual drivetrains.

Let’s wait for the BMW engines, coming soon... 2012 RRS HSE SDV6, BOURNVILLE 12/12-10/14
2015 RRS DYNAMIC HYBRID, CAUSEWAY GREY 1/15-7/18
2018 RRS DYNAMIC P400e, BRITISH RACING GREEN 8/18-8/19
2019 RRS DYNAMIC P525, SILICON SILVER 8/19-

Post #585504 Sun Aug 18 2019 8:56am
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DangerMouseUK



Member Since: 16 Jul 2016
Location: London
Posts: 277

United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Santorini Black

Hey Renaco,

Yes I saw the I6 petrol engines.

But I was referring to the Diesel versions, there's a slide for the new Defender that shows a D300 engine which in that instance is supposed to be an I6 and not a V6.

They say that engine isn't due to start shipping for the Defender until MY21 though so sometime late next year.

Was wondering how long they have the supply contract on this current SDV6 engine, I'm guessing its another Ford jobbie along with the SDV8?

Post #585519 Sun Aug 18 2019 11:53am
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Renaco



Member Since: 28 Jul 2011
Location: Bavaria
Posts: 288

OK, understood now, sorry was in my petrol thinking locked Rolling Eyes
I hope LR get this sorted with BMW engines instead...

Would be great if LR use their fantastic engineers to refine the quality, design and on/off-road capability’s further while implementing engines from BMW instead of building own engines and buying dated ones as usual, with a lot of problems. 2012 RRS HSE SDV6, BOURNVILLE 12/12-10/14
2015 RRS DYNAMIC HYBRID, CAUSEWAY GREY 1/15-7/18
2018 RRS DYNAMIC P400e, BRITISH RACING GREEN 8/18-8/19
2019 RRS DYNAMIC P525, SILICON SILVER 8/19-

Post #585546 Sun Aug 18 2019 5:12pm
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DangerMouseUK



Member Since: 16 Jul 2016
Location: London
Posts: 277

United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Santorini Black

Lol that's ok bro and thanks for the review too!!

Two quick ones;

- Does the inside seam of the bottom of your tailgate have a really bad finish with bumps and faint scratch line along it - not the outside facing corner but the inside facing one. Mine is pretty bad just noticed it when I was wiping boot seals today.

- Does anyone elses Online Media play up when you start the car again, have an internet radio station set on TuneIn but whenever I start the car the whole thing locks up and thinks it was playing Deezer and then I have to flip sources away and back to it to get it working again, bit of a pain. Thought it was because I logged into the Live services but I logged out and its still doing it!!

Post #585763 Fri Aug 23 2019 8:50pm
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 30 May 2005
Location: Driving along in my automobile
Posts: 17287

2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

LR used to be owned by BMW before Ford and Tata, I had a TD6 FFRR and was bitterly disappointed with what was then supposed to be BMW’s best Diesel engine - rattled like a Berlin Taxi even when warm, wheezed on turbo boost and soooooooo slow. Worst car engine I have ever had. The 2.0ltr TD4 in the Freelander 1 I had before was a much much better BMW Engine, smooth and quiet and loads of power at low revs. The little 1.5 3 cylinder turbo petrol engine in my Countryman though is a cracker, almost silent unless I really welly it, super smooth for a triple and more than enough power to pull along a PHEV with 150 extra kgs of batteries under the back seat. 2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - a test car before Seeing if I could go to totally Petrol/Diesel free motoring
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Post #585792 Sat Aug 24 2019 7:55pm
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Tyrefitter



Member Since: 19 Jul 2015
Location: Bridlington East Yorkshire
Posts: 2812

United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 Autobiography Fuji White

I also had a FFRR 2002 with the BMW 3.0 & it no power at all compared to the 3.0 v6 I know have in the my15 sport. Andy.

2015 RRS AB Fuji.
2014 Evoque D-Lux Fuji.
Previous motor.
2014 RRS SC Santorino,coris roof.
2016 VW Amarok Highline,candy white
2014 RRS AB FUJI
2012 RRS Dynamic red edition Fuji
2012 RRS SE santorino
2015 Navara White
Subaru wrx sti widetrack
2008 RRS white TDV8
2007 RRS black TDV8
2002 RR Vogue
1996 P38 2.5 HSE.

Post #585797 Sat Aug 24 2019 9:00pm
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