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SRE



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Not sure if it lifting his heavy wallet that caused his medical issues, more like pushing the float to save on his electric bill In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Down and out's Velar
In UK - Not saying, but its NOT a Muddy Milk Float.
Gone - Several Lode Lane vehicles
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Post #547278 Thu Feb 01 2018 4:32pm
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muddywheels
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Rolling with laughter Big Cry Rolling with laughter Big Cry

It hurts when I laugh Embarassed 

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MY17 Lexus RC 300h F Sport
MY16 DS
MY10/13 RRSs - Mini One
FL2s
Jag X-type
D2s - MGTF
FL1s
Landcruiser, Mondeo, Escort, Orion, Astra GTE, Xr3i, Renault 5/19/18, Fiesta 1300S, Allegro, Avenger, Honda MTX, Yamaha FS1E

Post #547284 Thu Feb 01 2018 5:43pm
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muddywheels
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Had to visit hospital Wednesday at York despite "stay at home" advice so the Mitsy and Winter Tyres were finally tested in anger Mr. Green

https://vimeo.com/258229498

Roads started pretty clear but changed very quickly so 45 min trip took 2 hours mainly because I couldn't get past trapped cars and had to double back considerable distance Rolling Eyes

https://vimeo.com/258230121

https://vimeo.com/258231095

https://vimeo.com/258230300

In future I think I will avoid main roads and take side roads as I found them better ie no idiots to worry about Wink

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Temp was -6, fluffy blowing snow over ice but never slipped once braking, turning or pulling away - much better than both my previous RRS on Pirelli Scorpions Bow down

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I also kept the batteries full so if we got stuck could run the heater without the engine Cool 

NOW GONE

MY17 Lexus RC 300h F Sport
MY16 DS
MY10/13 RRSs - Mini One
FL2s
Jag X-type
D2s - MGTF
FL1s
Landcruiser, Mondeo, Escort, Orion, Astra GTE, Xr3i, Renault 5/19/18, Fiesta 1300S, Allegro, Avenger, Honda MTX, Yamaha FS1E

Post #550190 Fri Mar 02 2018 10:38am
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Well done Muddy, the winter tyres make all the difference. I've got a set fitted to my RRS and got through fairly deep and drifted snow yestyerday with no issues.
Tim Tim
RRS HSE 3.0TDV6

Post #550194 Fri Mar 02 2018 11:06am
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RRSTDV8



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Stornoway Grey

muddywheels wrote:

Temp was -6, fluffy blowing snow over ice but never slipped once braking, turning or pulling away - much better than both my previous RRS on Pirelli Scorpions Bow down


Wow, big surprise. 4WD with winter tyres is better than 4WD without winter tyres. Rolling Eyes

Been out and about in my RRS and even when playing never had a problem. That's on Grabber AT3 which is also winter rated. Took SWMBO sister and BiL to Heathrow today too. Fine once on the main roads. Some remains of accidents on the M40 including a sad looking black Velar showing the signs that the driver was an idiot - the front end looked decidedly second hand.

I did decide against trying to plough through a waist high drift on a local road taking SWMBO to work this morning. Don't need a damaged radiator...

Otherwise it was as easy as driving on tarmac, remembering, of course, that braking is much more difficult on barely covered icy tarmac than on deeper snow. Driving in snow is like driving off road - as slow as possible, as fast as necessary. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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But hows the battery's lasted? any effect with the cold weather?

My camera and iPhones died a cold death whilst sledging yesterday in -1c and heavy winds

Post #550253 Fri Mar 02 2018 3:30pm
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2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

If you bought the new Jaguar IPace, like the Mini I have on order, it will have battery pre-conditioning when plugged into a charger to heat the batteries in cold weather so the chilling effect of cold weather on the battery has a much less marked effect. Does the Outlander have a similar device Muddy?
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Glad I’m not at home but we are just passing Dungeness on the way to Montreal and have more snow on the ship now than we have had in two Montreal port calls since mid January!

This is 9 miles offshore south of the UK - we have been to Bremerhaven, Rotterdam and Antwerp since Monday last and nothing like this in any of those places. At least we haven’t got the ice that we had in the St Lawerence
In the Gulf of St Lawerence





Passing Quebec on the way down the river to Montreal




Montreal is less icy though

And it has been quite warm (relatively) at -8c during the day to -26c at night........... they are having a mid winter this winter in Canada! And in case you wondered - yes we are Ice Class 1 strengthened to navigate in these conditions without an icebreaker - it is my first experience of this in 44 years at sea and it is amazing to plough through 20-30cm thick new sea ice at 18 knots........... 2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - a test car before Seeing if I could go to totally Petrol/Diesel free motoring
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Post #550258 Fri Mar 02 2018 4:15pm
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Wow Tim! This deserves its own thread. Current: MY16 RRS2 3.0 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic, Carpathian Grey & Santorini Black Sliding Pano/Ebony & Ivory 2 Tone
Gone: MY13 RRS 3.0 SDV6 HSE Black Edition, Orkney Grey/Ivory
Gone: MY09 RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSE, Santorini Black/Almond

Post #550265 Fri Mar 02 2018 5:19pm
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muddywheels
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RRSTDV8 wrote:
Wow, big surprise. 4WD with winter tyres is better than 4WD without winter tyres. Rolling Eyes


Really! - I had winter tyres 2013/14 on RRS and 2016/17/18 on Mitsy but this is the first time I've had to test them so I wasn't convinced until this week Confused

The only 4x4s I ever had an issue with all season tyres were both my RRSs on 20" Scorpions - never had an issue with Landcruiser/FL1s/FL2s/D2s or DS Rolling Eyes

The Mitsy won't go off road where the RRS will but at least it will stay on road when I want it too Wink 

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MY17 Lexus RC 300h F Sport
MY16 DS
MY10/13 RRSs - Mini One
FL2s
Jag X-type
D2s - MGTF
FL1s
Landcruiser, Mondeo, Escort, Orion, Astra GTE, Xr3i, Renault 5/19/18, Fiesta 1300S, Allegro, Avenger, Honda MTX, Yamaha FS1E


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npinks wrote:
But hows the battery's lasted? any effect with the cold weather?

My camera and iPhones died a cold death whilst sledging yesterday in -1c and heavy winds


The battery gets hit by cold but like Tim says using the preheat on mains before trip helps with this and you get in a warm car too Mr. Green

Due to potential risk of spending night in car overnight I saved the battery and ran it on petrol while we were moving and still managed a respectable 42 mpg - when we have parked using the battery for heating only it barely drops so I would hope to get many hours from it Thumbs Up 

NOW GONE

MY17 Lexus RC 300h F Sport
MY16 DS
MY10/13 RRSs - Mini One
FL2s
Jag X-type
D2s - MGTF
FL1s
Landcruiser, Mondeo, Escort, Orion, Astra GTE, Xr3i, Renault 5/19/18, Fiesta 1300S, Allegro, Avenger, Honda MTX, Yamaha FS1E

Post #550273 Fri Mar 02 2018 6:53pm
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muddywheels
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fkarim wrote:
Wow Tim! This deserves its own thread.


Agree Bow down Thumbs Up Mr. Green 

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MY17 Lexus RC 300h F Sport
MY16 DS
MY10/13 RRSs - Mini One
FL2s
Jag X-type
D2s - MGTF
FL1s
Landcruiser, Mondeo, Escort, Orion, Astra GTE, Xr3i, Renault 5/19/18, Fiesta 1300S, Allegro, Avenger, Honda MTX, Yamaha FS1E

Post #550274 Fri Mar 02 2018 6:54pm
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RRSTDV8



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Stornoway Grey

The Scorpions aren't real all season tyres though. Pirelli make a real all season tyre called Scorpion Verde All Season. The Scorpion that LR fitted to the RRS was designed to be sporty on the road. It's not much use for anything else and, I think, helped the RRS get its reputation for being rubbish early on. Having driven two RRS on decent tyres, I can say I'd rather be in my RRS in this winter weather than most other vehicles, 4x4 or otherwise. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Post #550277 Fri Mar 02 2018 7:02pm
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I guess I’m going to have to wait till April for my maccy’s breaky this year Muddy.

Andy. 2014 RRS SC santorino,coris roof.
2016 VW Amarok Highline,candy white
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RRSTDV8 wrote:
Pirelli make a real all season tyre called Scorpion Verde All Season.

I can report that Verde All Season are also disappointing on snow and ice, as I found out in December.


RRSTDV8 wrote:
Having driven two RRS on decent tyres, I can say I'd rather be in my RRS in this winter weather than most other vehicles, 4x4 or otherwise.

This was my thinking too ... until now. I recently got back from the Alps. The trip was supposed to be kind of a last opportunity for a while as I am not going to keep the RRS beyond 3 years and will probably get something different next time. I thought that was the only car I would feel confident driving in tough conditions. However, while there and having seen all types of cars (saloons, estates, vans and of course other SUVs), on the right tyres, from a variety of manufacturers, getting up and down the same steep mountain roads layered with the worst kind of stuff from a driving perspective, all without fuss, my opinion has changed. Yes, RRS is certainly more capable but in real-life situations, most others cope well too (if correct tyres and common sense are used, which you need with RRS too) without constantly patting themselves (I mean LR, not the owners) on the back about it. Current: MY16 RRS2 3.0 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic, Carpathian Grey & Santorini Black Sliding Pano/Ebony & Ivory 2 Tone
Gone: MY13 RRS 3.0 SDV6 HSE Black Edition, Orkney Grey/Ivory
Gone: MY09 RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSE, Santorini Black/Almond

Post #550283 Fri Mar 02 2018 7:32pm
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Tyrefitter wrote:
I guess I’m going to have to wait till April for my maccy’s breaky this year Muddy.

Andy.


Afraid so Andy Laughing 

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MY16 DS
MY10/13 RRSs - Mini One
FL2s
Jag X-type
D2s - MGTF
FL1s
Landcruiser, Mondeo, Escort, Orion, Astra GTE, Xr3i, Renault 5/19/18, Fiesta 1300S, Allegro, Avenger, Honda MTX, Yamaha FS1E

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