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OK so last night I did 17 miles and it cost 73p to recharge afterwards - so quick calc gives equivalent of 116 mpg assuming £5 per gallon Cool Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!


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Post #505649 Fri Sep 16 2016 11:11pm
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Buckster wrote:
nigel52 wrote:
Have been off the site for a few months since moving from RRS to Merc GLE and immediately saw Muddy's post.

As a follower of your posts over the years fascinated why after having a loan DS for so long you continued with your purchase of the DS with very positive reviews only to change to the PHEV.,?


Off Topic Hello Nigel, good to see your still checking in occasionally and hope all is good! Hope the Merc is treating you well? Thumbs Up


I agree with everything Muddy says, particularly how customers are treated. I will say that JLR is still a great brand and I loved my RRS just could not take the reliability risk in Europe. Saying that, where we spend a good deal of time close to La Rochelle the only British cars (well Tata) we see are LR so the French like them.

Having now done 3,500 miles in the Mec 350 GLE SUV I am pleased with my choice. Great engine and nine speed smooth gearbox, £225 VED tax, excellent customer service , 30 yr free breakdown incl free hotel accommodation etc. I should have paid extra and got memory seats rather than just electric and Nappa leather. Air suspension good and in sport mode no great difference from RRS Dynamic. RRS obviously better off road but Merc not bad but I would never go extreme. However, personally I felt my Freelander was better off road than the RRS due to the huge extra weight of the RRS that dug in on sand and mud particularly on hills.

Do I regret my change back to Merc - absolutely not. If one wants to do long distance high speed motoring then the Merc 350 GLE takes some beating. Not as economical as hoped but better than my TDV6 RRS. I suspect similar to a new RRS although I don't hang around.

(Buck I expect the three of us will meet up at the 'No Name' in the winter to compare notes and sink a few.) Current Merc GLE 3.5d 2016 model, 2011 RRS HSE standard
Previous 2012 FL2 liked but boot too small
Previous to LR's 3 x Merc E320 estates - fantastic load carriers and long distance cruisers, ultra reliable. Only changed as needed a 4x4 high tow vehicle. Did have a 1955 early LR drop down windscreen and fuel tank under the drivers seat; again very reliable and super rugged.

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Just put this here...

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars...brid-power

Whistle

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muddywheels
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Yes I found a 2 year old RRS hybrid for £65k with a range of 1 mile on electric which wasn't much good Sad

The plug in bit isn't available yet but will be interesting to see when it's available how it compares Thumbs Up

I also heard the MY17 has increased the electric range but unable to see how far, with a starting price of £75k, £185 VED, no capital allowances and only 45 mpg claimed (which will be exaggerated) Whistle

For the same money I could buy 2 phev with a better electric range, claimed 156 mpg (which I'm exceeding), 100% capital allowance and free VED Mr. Green

The Outlander PHEV is outselling everything else for a reason and they've also announced electric range on next version will be 75 miles - LR are playing catch up Wink Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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Interesting thread - I like the idea of the Phev as my commute is 15 miles each way. I think once I've got the V8 SVR out of my system though I'd maybe go full electric with the Tesla Model X. The performance is staggering and the charging network improving all the time

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muddywheels wrote:
OK so last night I did 17 miles and it cost 73p to recharge afterwards - so quick calc gives equivalent of 116 mpg assuming £5 per gallon Cool


BUT, have to managed to blast past anything yet, sorry, I will rephrase, have you managed to overtake ANYTHING. Mr. Green In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

Post #505817 Mon Sep 19 2016 8:44am
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muddywheels
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Top of page 2 Whistle

Laughing

Had a run to York Saturday which meant I had to call on the petrol engine for support - according to computer mpg dropped to 69.4 mpg but I will get it back up this week thanks to local runs in electric range Mr. Green

According to computer my electric range is now 38 miles - this is 6 miles more than claimed Shocked Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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OK Muddy, but what did you overtake Rolling with laughter and was it downhill Whistle In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

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Quite a few cyclists in York...... Laughing

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The power is instant thanks to the electric motors (hence Tesla phenomenal 0-60) so by the time the RRS auto stop start and the ZF gearbox wake up I would be gone - I will admit a RRS could catch up and pass me but where I normally drive overtaking is as safe as being a Kamikaze pilot so being in front would give me an advantage Laughing Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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muddywheels
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Ady 555 wrote:
Quite a few cyclists in York...... Laughing


Yep - now I can creep up and scare the Censored out of them Twisted Evil Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Post #505825 Mon Sep 19 2016 9:09am
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So, to abridge, it was a pushbike going down hill Rolling with laughter In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

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Now we have a new Topic Bow down
I thought it was only appropriate that Muddys new toy should be the first to be posted. Laughing Thumbs Up

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Bow down Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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New Section new name

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