In Autocar this week there is an article on a new V8 diesel that is being tested for the Range Rover Sport, due for volume production in November. How do you think this will fit in with the current range ? and will the 2.7 diesel be dropped .
Nick.

Nick,
Havent seen the mag,
Could you tell us more  Its out there somewhere. Second V10 Treg on the drive at the moment.

Hi Biggles
Its in this weeks Autocar 7th June. There is a big Landrover special talking about a new small Land Rover and the new Freelander . There are two pictures of a RRS testing with the new V8 diesel. I have a TDV6 on order and now wonder if this new V8 diesel will replace the TDV6 or fit in higher up the range ?

When the Disco3 first came out there was rumours that a TDV8 engine was to follow in a few years, I guess this is that very engine. I doubt they'll drop the TDV6, probably make them both available.

The 8 will no doubt be a bit more powerful all round but at the expense of worse fuel consumption. Assuming it's fairly much the same engine with two more cylinders it'll be a 3.6 litre, it's about time LR made a bigger diesel engine as available in the past they seem to have always gone for big petrol lumps but smaller diesel ones. Admittedly there's plenty of torque in the diesels but occasionally it'd be nice to have a bit more power nearer the top end without having to remortage to run a petrol Landy

The article states that it a brand new 3.6 litre V8 to be built at Ford's Dagenham plant . It has a new cutting edge diesel design to reduce emissions and improve on fuel ecconomy .

I bet it goes into the Range Rover first and then into the D3 in time for the 1st facelift and to take D3 more "upmarket" as seems to be LR policy with models. Don't forget that the TD6 RR is the odd man out in the bigger Landy ranges as it still has a BMW engine and less powerful and cruder than a TDv6. Aslo bearing mind that the press loved the D3 and RR but slated the TD6 as being vocal and not powerful enough and the TDv6 in D3 as not powerful enough for such a heavy vehicle.
This also means that the next Freelander can be bigger than present and could be the basis for the next Defender. Freelander3 is also slated to be 5 door only, which will allow a "baby" Freelander "fun" 3 door car or a Defender replacement to slot in at the bottom of the range.

Will have to go to town now and get a copy of Autocar............. hopefully at the same time as collecting my RRS....

The next-generation diesel is intended be capable of using the environmentally friendly "clean diesel" fuel that we get starting in 2007 in North America. It was always expected to be a "more powerful" V8 for us power thirsty types, with possible availability in 2007 or 2008. The current V6 diesels can't pass the emission laws in (at least) California and New York... so we're totally without diesel for now.

I'd expect both diesels to co-exist in the UK and beyond when/if the new diesel engine is finally introduced... but I wouldn't expect it for the 2006 model year.

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I can scan the items in Autocar if anybody wants them in a PM/email

Heres the text from the Autocar Website

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The mighty Range Rover and Range Rover Sport aren’t being ignored either. Our spies spotted a development car powered by an all-new 3.6-litre V8 turbodiesel, to be built at Ford’s Dagenham plant. It’s thought that the engine will be good for around 250bhp and well over 400lb ft of torque.


Volume production should begin in November and around 35,000 engines should be made in a full year. It’s expected to be fitted to the Range Rover Sport later this year and the Range Rover in 2006. Ford is at the cutting edge of diesel engine design with this engine’s block, which is made from Compacted Graphite Iron (GGI). Industry experts say that as the massive fuel injection pressures found in modern diesel engines increase even further, CGI will also be used for cylinder heads instead of aluminium.


A Range Rover with hybrid power is also being planned to offset the criticisms of anti-4x4 campaigners, a top-level Land Rover source has revealed. The favoured option is a diesel/electric system, If it’s signed off soon the hybrid could be in the showrooms by 2009.

Mag scans here thanks to Tim: http://rrsport.theseusnorth.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=12

Martin

Have been in to a Landrover Dealer and they are not aware of any new engine ???We seem to know more than they do ?? My concern is the TDV6 is not Euro IV compliant and am not sure on the legislation from Jan 2006 on emissions. Will Landrover be able to sell the TDV6 after Jan 2006 or could they change it for this new engine . Does anybody have more information ?

nickp wrote:

Have been in to a Landrover Dealer and they are not aware of any new engine ???We seem to know more than they do ?? My concern is the TDV6 is not Euro IV compliant and am not sure on the legislation from Jan 2006 on emissions. Will Landrover be able to sell the TDV6 after Jan 2006 or could they change it for this new engine . Does anybody have more information ?

Nick

According to my dealer here in Switzerland the TDV6 definitely is Euro 4 compliant.

However in Switzerland and Germany as well as in some other countries, cars equipped with a diesel particle filter (I am not sure if that's the correct technical name) will become mandatory for new diesel cars and road tax allowances will be granted. The new M-class, BMWs and some other makes do already come with a filter as standard but Land Rover are slow as usual and no date has been set yet.

Actually I will just have to wait with placing an order for a new HSE TDV6 until LR can confirm that the car will arrive with the filter...... truth is it's more my wife who would not allow me to buy one without it !

Roland

From May 05

nickp wrote:

In Autocar this week there is an article on a new V8 diesel that is being tested for the Range Rover Sport, due for volume production in November. How do you think this will fit in with the current range ? and will the 2.7 diesel be dropped .
Nick.

Anything more solid re timelines etc?