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Melodious



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Fuel Tank Capacity (Possible Issue?)

Hi,

First timer on the forum.

I have a RRS 2016 3.0D Autobiography and recently purchased in August and have noticed when I go to fill up on a full tank the maximum it fills up currently is around 76 litres which I know is 10 litres short than the official capacity of 86 litres. Any ideas what the issue would be?

When I first purchased the vehicle the fuel range on a full tank was showing around the 440 mile mark which is what it should be but now the max it goes is to 382 miles.

Thanks

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Nothing unusual, range adjusts to driving style. I can get 600 miles on a long Motorway journey using cruise and sticking to 60mph.

Around town it’s back down to circa 400… 2015 4.4 Autobiography
2010 3.0 HSE 162K - Gone

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When it claims to be empty there is still 10 litres in the tank ... Always listen to old people or when they die you will live on in ignorance.
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Melodious



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Thanks to both of you and confirming it is normal.

Post #638492 Tue Jan 02 2024 1:23pm
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Re: Fuel Tank Capacity (Possible Issue?)

Melodious wrote:
Hi,

First timer on the forum.

I have a RRS 2016 3.0D Autobiography and recently purchased in August and have noticed when I go to fill up on a full tank the maximum it fills up currently is around 76 litres which I know is 10 litres short than the official capacity of 86 litres. Any ideas what the issue would be?

When I first purchased the vehicle the fuel range on a full tank was showing around the 440 mile mark which is what it should be but now the max it goes is to 382 miles.

Thanks


If the vehicle has had the fuel tank 'slap' problem addressed then there is a fuel capacity deficit over the stated capacity as the LR fix involves shoving bags into the tank to effectively dampen the slosh or slap sound. Think the bags loose you approx. 5 litres of capacity.

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Melodious



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Funny you mention the slap problem, I don’t think it has been rectified on mine because I can hear the slop/slosh of fuel (almost sounds like a knock) when I get to mid-tank fuel level on low gears (irritating to say the least). Cutting edge tech by installing bags lol

Post #638507 Tue Jan 02 2024 9:39pm
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Maybe worth asking a MD to see if there is any record of it being done, definitely solves the problem as I had it done on my 2014 early on and never heard any noise since. Guess you'll lose even more range if you do have it done Big Cry

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Melodious



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Will do, is there any technical term to mention when talking with MD re this? Assuming it wasn’t part of a recall and any rectification will need to be done will be at the expense of my wallet? If so, then in might leave it as long as it doesn’t cause any wider issues. Then at least I’ll have my range 😂

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Just checked on topix and it's LR Tech bullitin ref LTB00668V7 (most recent) and issue is shown as existing on 2016 MY onwards, I've uploaded a copy to my gallery and linked below. If you bought from dealer network, I'd be arguing it should have been addressed, if private purchase - no harm in asking!


https://www.rrsport.co.uk/gallery/albums/u...0TOPIx.pdf

You'll love the method of installation - Techs with long arms only need apply!
If you need anything else, let me know.

regards

Mike

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Melodious



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Thanks Mike. Indeed long arms are needed for this.

Purchased the car private so will ask previous owner whether this was resolved (I didn’t see any paperwork to suggest it has).

If not then might give MD a call and see if this should be resolved as part of a recall possibly?If not then maybe my Indy possibly.

Would there be any issue if I didn’t get this resolved besides the noise?

Post #638515 Wed Jan 03 2024 1:11am
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I'm not aware of it causing any problems, other than it being annoying!
Good luck

Post #638517 Wed Jan 03 2024 8:24am
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Melodious



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Well contacted Land Rover online and they said that I contact my local MD, which I will do but they have said the fix wouldn’t be covered as part of a recall which I assumed. If MD are going to charge me for diagnosing the issue and then on top of that charge to fix, is it really worth my while besides the annoyance? The car is going in for a timing belt change (both belts) so might ask my Indy to look into it.

Could probably live with it until it becomes really annoying! 😂

Post #638522 Wed Jan 03 2024 3:42pm
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I don't think they could charge to diagnose as its a known fault, just say please carry out LR TSB blah, blah. Think there is a time allowance shown in the doc.

Make sure when getting belts done on the SDV6 that your indy times the fuel pump (its not timed on the 2.7 TDV6, but is on the SDV6). It'll still run ok, but performance will be down.

Cheers

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Melodious



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I couldn’t see a time allowance on the sheet anywhere but I might be wrong (if you can confirm).

Thanks for the advice re fuel pump and this being times on the SDV6. What are acceptable times to ensure performance is not neglected?

Post #638524 Wed Jan 03 2024 5:50pm
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Workshop time allowances are shown on bottom of page 3 and continued onto page 4. Think yours looks like 5 hours labour.

With regards to the fuel pump being timed, this means it needs to be set to a specific position when the engine is at top dead centre (TDC). When they change the main (front) Cam belt, they will lock the engine at TDC with some special tools, at this time they also need to lock the fuel pump in its position relative to engine TDC with another special tool.

On the 2.7 engine this wasn't necessary as it used a 4 port pump, whereas on the 3.0 SDV6 it uses a 2 port pump, so if it is not timed correctly then fuel pressure can drop when demanded by certain injectors, causing loss of performance or poor running.

In all fairness any indy should know that the SDV6 needs the fuel pump belt done in this way, if they don't I'd be looking for another garage quickly!

Post #638525 Wed Jan 03 2024 7:35pm
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