Hi all.

I'm in the market for either an X5 40D or a RRS Autobiography, and currently teetering on the edge of getting a 2017 3.0l SDV6 RRS with 35000 on the clock, but having massive reservations having read so much about the crankshaft issues! (And needing a new engine to fix)

Does anyone know if this issue is with early models, and mainly TDV6, or if its still and issue with a MY17 SDV6 (67 plate)?

Any help/insight would be massively appreciated as I'm loathed she'll out on a big risk.

Thanks, Tim

Tim,

The risk is the same with every sdv6 engine from what I know. If you go ahead I would only buy an approved used & it should have a full service history by JLR, even then the warranty probably won’t pay out but JLR normally pay out as a good will gesture.

Good luck!

Malc

Or buy the V8 diesel or V8 petrol.  2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

ooh, so the 4.4 SDV8 isn't affected then?

I was pushing for a MY17 for the updated and way better inControl touch pro, but maybe a late 2015 V8 might work!

Bought mine at 16k miles and nearly 44k miles later my crankshaft is still very much intact... Ferrari F430 Spider F1
MY17 RRS AB V6
2CV6 Special

as mentioned here, all SDV6 CAN have this issue.

the problem is, that you can't find out if it will come or not.
I have read a statement of a mechanic, who mentioned, that all crankshaft issues he has seen, were combined with low / very low oil level. Range Rover Sport HST D350

Spleen wrote:

Bought mine at 16k miles and nearly 44k miles later my crankshaft is still very much intact...

My SDV6 has nearly 120k miles on it and so far , so good. Ooh, I hope that isn't tempting fate...  2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

TimD wrote:

ooh, so the 4.4 SDV8 isn't affected then?

I was pushing for a MY17 for the updated and way better inControl touch pro, but maybe a late 2015 V8 might work!

harisson wrote:

as mentioned here, all SDV6 CAN have this issue.

the problem is, that you can't find out if it will come or not.
I have read a statement of a mechanic, who mentioned, that all crankshaft issues he has seen, were combined with low / very low oil level.

Oil burning would also cause a low oil level. Or it's just not being filled correctly thanks to the silly electronic dipstick that is sadly becoming ubiquitous. There is no oil level warning light, amazingly, only an oil pressure warning.

I wouldn't be surprised if some vehicles are being run on ever lower oil levels with each service - would be easy to put in slightly less than was taken out, for example - and that is leading to them running with low oil levels. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Ash3 wrote:

Would that not suggest that this is result of oil leaking somewhere ?

How else can you get low oil unless insufficient oil was put in during a service.

BMWs when they suffer oil dilution they give a "oil level roo high" message and recommend oil to be drained to correct level.

From what I hear its not just range rovers that suffer oil dilution .....do BMWs suffer crank shaft failures or audus or mercs?

hi Ash
I don't know from where the low oil level is coming. I checked every ca. 1000km the oil level and it was everytime full / nearly full in my MY16 SDV6.

I also have given my car on time in service. not everybody is on time and is "stretching" the time and kilometers..

every Diesel car can suffer from oil dilution - it depends of your driving style and the architecture of the engine, exhaust and DPF.. I suppose that a lot BMWs, Audis and Mercs suffer from oil dilution and the most drivers don't care, because they don't know it and German premium cars have 24months service interval or 30'000km distance. during discussions with friends etc. I have seen that ALL are giving the cars in service after 24 months. their argumentation "the manufacturer says so.."

IMHO the worst thing what you can do to your engine...
If I check the technical specs of the new I6D engines, then I see that JLR has setup the engine with 8.8l oil volume. I suppose to minimize the oil dilution impact (2 decilitre of Diesel in oil are in percentage muss less in a total oil volume of 8.8l then 5.9l )

the new I6D has also a 24 month service interval or a service distance of 34'000km.
I will, for sure, do an oil change every 12months or more/less 12'000-15'000km Range Rover Sport HST D350

Johnrrs wrote:

TimD wrote:

ooh, so the 4.4 SDV8 isn't affected then?

I was pushing for a MY17 for the updated and way better inControl touch pro, but maybe a late 2015 V8 might work!

Mines a 2015 year but MY16 model and they have a few more toys than the MY15 15 plate cars. Gesture tailgate and automatic passenger access(lowers the car when you pull up)are a couple of things but I’m sure there are more updated items. Mine is also the V6 and 42k on clock with no issues as yet……This is also the best car I have had and have no plan’s to change it yet. This is my2nd RRS and to me there is no better SUV on the market.

Mines a 66 MY 17 and has InTouch Pro. I deliberately went for that because the old one is just horrible, ITP still isn't a patch on my old BMW's iDrive. Ferrari F430 Spider F1
MY17 RRS AB V6
2CV6 Special

Mine was registered July 2015 so one of the first MY16 models. It also takes adblue which is another give away that it’s the MY16. I think there are more options and colours available on the MY16 too like head up display and Zanzibar silver (my colour). All the differences are on this forum somewhere and there are also PDF sales brochures for every year somewhere too so that will tell you all changes/updates for the 15/16 and 17 year models.

unless you like sleeping with a grenade under your pillow, get the SDV8 or the V8 Supercharged


seen this morning: https://www.lrukforums.com/threads/engine-...st-1762461

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