His defence was that he was the cheapest on autotrader. My argument was that there’s a distinct difference between “for sale” and “sold” prices 2006 RRS Supercharged 4.2 HST muthuaflecka!

AW8 wrote:

Andyjay123,

Re the 4.4.HSE I believe I am aware of the car you are referring to. I spoke to the seller who told me he was a private seller who now has a work provided car. I should add that I also found another 4.4 HSE prior listed/advertised by same seller. Make of that what you will...perhaps he bought one then another to replace it with & within a close timescale.

One oddity was the car had an odd coloured door handle.

If the specific 4.4 is truly perfect & GENUINELY wants for nothing, (including underside, all fluids, brake lines, discs, pads, cosmetics & servicing) , then IMO the vehicle is already priced well.

I was watching prices on these a good while before I bought mine 3 months and including that specific vehicle.

A decent 5.0 SC is almost in another league in terms of performance/dynamics ...and so it should be if the asking is more than twice the price of the 4.4 HSE mentiined in 1st post.

Mini review follows......Mods move please if required (due to thread title).


Mine is a 2005 L320 4.4 HSE in Java Black.

Mileage 109k have thus far only done about 1.5k in it.

Tax is £315 p /a fwiw but reality as we know is these can cost thousands to fuel & properly maintain......academic really albeit pre March 2006 cars with lower tax arguably more appealing to used market when cars typically purchased for £10k or less.

I had been keeping an eye out for one of these.


Pretax hike 4.4 is a relatively rare car to source . I believe in UK they were only sold them for 18mths or so.

Interestingly the petrol G4 challenge cars had same engine. I like to think that reliability was a factor in that choice. I read that the JLR 4.4 lump has ability to cause oil in engine to pump around without being compromised by steep angles/inclines.

I am used to relatively thirsty cars having had a 2002 4.4i V8 petrol X5 before as my daily for 11 years. Prior to that I had an RX-8 which did about 16 mpg when it felt like it. My RAV4 struggled to get above mid to late 20's mpg wise.

That said I use my RRS as my daily. The official mpg on the 4.4 when new was 19mpg. Fortunately my commute is on flat(ish) roads. 30/40/50 & national limits.....not too much stop/start. I can get 21-24 give or take going to work and back if I take it very steady. I had a Volvo 2.4 (170) auto for a nearly a year as an in-between car....that typically gave me 26-28 to the gallon. So I reckon 21-24 isn't too far off that & acceptable. I don't have the belt change or other issues the early diesel has either. My mpg not far off diesel and no worries about being banned from cities. Mine will not be subject to the low emission zone charging in London. It also doesn't throw out the same rubbish early diesels do, sound like tractor or cause my hands to stink when fuelling.

I find my 4.4 fairly comfortable & performance generally adequate. I tend to take it fairly easy anyway. Sure I stretch the vehicles legs occasionally but I don't tend to rag my car around during the daytime. I typically just keep up with traffic flow as most locals tend to drive close to posted limits. I get to drive other stuff that provides more on road interaction. The RRS doesn't like bends as much as my X5 did albeit I don't have the fancy active cornering suspension set up which is standard on the SC.

I bought this after narrowly missing out on a tidy 4.2 SC First edition. That was up for 9.5k iirc. Bought it on a bit of a whim....like many I had an itch to deal with.... Car was up for 7750. Owes me £9250 already but I got £500 higher than expected on my p/x moving into it...plus I squeezed £200 out of the trade seller towards brake work ..so it owes me nearer £8500 I guess......its all relative I guess. I currently wouldn't part with it for much less unless I wanted in on something else PDQ.


LR dictate these need brake line replacement at 10 year old I think. It is near impossible to find one that has had these done. Therefore I factored in mine needing brake lines. The good news was fronts had been done the not so good news was that it needed 6 brakes hoses. Oh and a caliper and some pads. The rear shoes were out of adjustment, (needs doing annually at service really). Basically a bit of a brake overhaul relieving me of about a grand all told. The caliper seizure I discovered after collection.....dusting/heat slight drag, mpg worse than expected. New pads also caused binding so I got someone better to clean things up and heh presto my mpg was back where I expected it to be.

I have had a bit of paint done as I am fussy with my cars...Bumpers have had a bit of knock/paint in past so ideally I may attend to thesewhen justifiable. It's bog standard, no chrome bling or monster alloys - almost understated & discreet.

As for remapping I don't see much point on these or most normally aspirated engines. If I had a diesel (not a huge fan -sorry) then I would consider it. My view is that if I wanted best performance from an early petrol RRS I would have bought a 4.2 SC mapped that &/or had a pulley upgrade. My X5 was remapped but the difference was negligible. In honesty I have better ways to spend my money than a remap. I would rather have an ATF mega flush or change over fluids as I feel that is a better use of my car related funds.

As well as slight savings on fuel having the 4.4 I also pay less on insurance and brakes....no big brembo's. I also don't have to deal with servicing or bills for dynamic suspension arc/ace or whatever its called.

One thing to consider (as well as allowing for stuff I have rambled about), is wheel size. Mine came on 19'from the factory. Many cars of similar age now run larger rims...Apparently an upgraded rack is required if running 20's or above. 19's on mine are a lot cheaper than 20 or 22" items. I am also less likely to have kerbing/pothole issues.

As for my man maths....I am probs £1.5k thus far with brakes, some paint some fresh badges etc. My advice would be to allow a couple of grand if you want to get on top of servicing, brakes, cosmetics, preventative work.

I reckon if after 2005/pre tax hike 2006 car (4.2 SC or 4.4) with 90-115k mileage , you need to spend circa £9 or 10k for a mint unmolested car, (if lucky/patient enough to find one), or allow same amount for cost of car plus sorting.

I have since seen some nice cars with less mileage but expect to pay north £10k maybe 12 or £13k for a minter..IMO £6 or £7k cars will need a spend or even be beyond help for sensible sorting expenditure.

Will I keep it ? Hmm not sure......In honesty I prefer similar aged BMW X5's - sure they lack off road ability of the RRS but I spend most of my time on road. I like 4x4 driveline, driving position (visibility), internal space and having some weight behind me in event some bafoon drives into me. The L320 RRS is growing on me.....slowly !


That's enough for this essay......assuming you got this far

Last edited by AW8 on Mon Jun 25 2018 12:28am. Edited 4 times in total

Quality bedtime reading. Thanks 2006 RRS Supercharged 4.2 HST muthuaflecka!

No probs.....hopefully of some use...

Oh and make sure you check everything works more than once. Ideally inspect on ramps or at least with suspension raised....Spent over 30 hours under mine tidying up and future proofing chassis etc

I wouldn’t know what to look for

This one is near to me plus only one
Owner. I’ll buy it tomorrow


https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ad...archad=New 2006 RRS Supercharged 4.2 HST muthuaflecka!

I had seen that one......albeit only after I bought mine. In reality I just wanted a black L320....pre 3/06 tax & to avoid diesels. 4.4 merely a slight bonus with slightly less running costs assuming a gamble it might behave itself for some time at least. I like my cars but also need to eat, sort whats left on the mortgage and do other stuff.

I reckon (on paper) the car you linked is a good buy.....I briefly prior considered moving mine on before work done & jumping ship to the very same vehicle you linked to.

I still have searches set up for 05/06 petrol L320's so thus currently have pretty good idea of market. I agree that asking and sale prices are not the same. Intereesting to see the closing unsold bid on the car you 1st linked.....(under £7k iirc).

Get it bought if it views ok.

Try to knock off £600 if brake lines not already replaced and ideally allow future £400 for atf, transfer box and diff fluid (x2) changes. Target source price £10k

If it doesn't view ok (I suspect it will) have a look at this also and bid £10.5k to kick off....target £11.5k max......it probs owes seller circa £10k plus prep.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/adv...7?atmobcid

Thanks so much 2006 RRS Supercharged 4.2 HST muthuaflecka!

AW8 wrote:

I had seen that one......albeit only after I bought mine. In reality I just wanted a black L320....pre 3/06 tax & to avoid diesels. 4.4 merely a slight bonus with slightly less running costs assuming a gamble it might behave itself for some time at least. I like my cars but also need to eat, sort whats left on the mortgage and do other stuff.

I reckon (on paper) the car you linked is a good buy.....I briefly prior considered moving mine on before work done & jumping ship to the very same vehicle you linked to.

I still have searches set up for 05/06 petrol L320's so thus currently have pretty good idea of market. I agree that asking and sale prices are not the same. Intereesting to see the closing unsold bid on the car you 1st linked.....(under £7k iirc).

Get it bought if it views ok.

Try to knock off £600 if brake lines not already replaced and ideally allow future £400 for atf, transfer box and diff fluid (x2) changes. Target source price £10k



If it doesn't view ok (I suspect it will) have a look at this also and bid £10.5k to kick off....target £11.5k max......it probs owes seller circa £10k plus prep.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/adv...7?atmobcid

Just out of curiosity where has all this rubbish about replace brake lines at 10 years come from?, all L/R say is replace flexible brake hoses at six year service.

Cheers
Col

I too was thinking that i know the rear brake lines can corrode as can all of them but have never seen/heard anything official about it

Sorry folks......I didn't mean to cause confusion. Indeed there isn't a requirement for brake lines. No idea where I plucked that from.

Ignore my references to intervals....I have just checked my L320 pdf maintenance schedule indeed hoses at 6 years with brake lines an inspection item ONLY.

Worth checking them though my lines were somewhat dire on rear.

Despite my posting enthusiasm I am a newb to the boards and only owned for 3 months...thanks for the feedback & please excuse my stupidity

AW8 wrote:

I had seen that one......albeit only after I bought mine. In reality I just wanted a black L320....pre 3/06 tax & to avoid diesels. 4.4 merely a slight bonus with slightly less running costs assuming a gamble it might behave itself for some time at least. I like my cars but also need to eat, sort whats left on the mortgage and do other stuff.

I reckon (on paper) the car you linked is a good buy.....I briefly prior considered moving mine on before work done & jumping ship to the very same vehicle you linked to.

I still have searches set up for 05/06 petrol L320's so thus currently have pretty good idea of market. I agree that asking and sale prices are not the same. Intereesting to see the closing unsold bid on the car you 1st linked.....(under £7k iirc).

Get it bought if it views ok.

Try to knock off £600 if brake lines not already replaced and ideally allow future £400 for atf, transfer box and diff fluid (x2) changes. Target source price £10k

If it doesn't view ok (I suspect it will) have a look at this also and bid £10.5k to kick off....target £11.5k max......it probs owes seller circa £10k plus prep.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/adv...7?atmobcid

The car I found is great but the guy selling took the on my car. It’s worth £14k trade and he offered me £12k !! I’ve already been offered £14k twice! I’ll now look at the one you’ve sent me 2006 RRS Supercharged 4.2 HST muthuaflecka!

Got that....

In meantime maybe put your S4 up on ebay immediately...You might get a bit nearer to the money you want and thus avoid p/x blurring the maths.

4.2 S4 avant manual was also on my radar....Potentially less headache than RRS if chains haldex and clutch sorted.

I will check here later to see how you get on.

If you have been offered 14K twice why not go back there