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Markymark



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United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Orkney Grey
GPS memory fail

My GPS does not retain its memory. I have been told that the backup battery has failed, but Land Rover didn't say anything about where or what module it was in. I am fed up with it as it keeps going home to Belgium!!!
Range rover sport use 2013

Post #584397 Wed Jul 24 2019 2:36pm
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Col



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I think they are talking rubbish, as I don't believe there is any Backup Battery fitted to the GPS.

Cheers
Col

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Markymark



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United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

Maybe, maybe not. All I know is that if you put in a destination and start your journey, and happen to turn the ignition off at sometime the destination is lost. Home destination,when put in is lost if you turn off the ignition, in fact everything is lost. Turn on the ignition and it's reset back to Belgium,Grote market to be exact.

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Col



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A little more information may help, like has it just delveloped the fault, have you just bought the car and it was already like it, recently updated the map or removed the battery etc.?

Cheers
Col

Post #584420 Thu Jul 25 2019 12:08am
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scarey



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i'd check the cars battery...if ok try a disconnection reset..

Post #584428 Thu Jul 25 2019 9:18am
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Markymark



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United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

The fault has only appeared a couple of months ago. One day ok,next day not ok??!?. Myself and my local Land Rover dealer have reset it back to Gloucester England, switch off and next time you switch it on, your back to Belgium,. Battery new last year,never been off since, still running original mapping software.go figure!

Post #584432 Thu Jul 25 2019 10:28am
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Brit Plumber



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Probably a GPS antennae issue. It not knowing where it is defaults. There is no backup battery in the IAM, only feed from the car battery. Have you had any work done, even if you believe it to be unrelated? Any very heavy rain? 2012 5.0 SC AB
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Markymark



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I don't know about the antenna, because 1 minute after I turn on the ignition, it goes from Belgium to where I am, but if I go to put in a destination, I have to change the country from Belgium to Great Britain,then all is ok till I turn it off again,then bingo it's back to Belgium again!!!When it's switched on it will find me no trouble,when programmed,no trouble,finds where I want to go and gets me there no problem. It just won't let go of Belgium!!!

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Markymark



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United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

P.S. my antenna is in the side windows I have no external shark fin

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jimbg



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It is usually the antennae that has failed.

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Post #584450 Thu Jul 25 2019 5:01pm
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Brit Plumber



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England 2012 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Autobiography Fuji White

Ok, have a read of this TSB, I think this will give you the answer.


TECHNICAL BULLETIN
LTB00642v3
20 OCT 2015
land-rover
© Jaguar Land Rover Limited
All rights reserved.
This bulletin supersedes TSB LTB00642v2/2015 dated 18 AUG 2015, which should either be destroyed or clearly marked to show it is no longer valid (e.g. with a line across the page). Only refer to the electronic version of this Technical Bulletin in TOPIx.
Changes are highlighted in gray
SECTION: 415-00
Navigation System Defaults To A Regional Location
AFFECTED VEHICLE RANGE:
Range Rover (LG)
Model Year:
2013-2014
VIN:
100000-154250
Assembly Plant:
Solihull
Range Rover Sport (LS)
Model Year:
2012-2013
VIN:
717166-814822
Assembly Plant:
Solihull
Range Rover Evoque (LV)
Model Year:
2012-2014
VIN:
600000-877530
Assembly Plant:
Halewood
Freelander 2/LR2 (LF)
Model Year:
2013-2014
VIN:
343863-392826
Assembly Plant:
Halewood
Discovery 4 / LR4 (LA)
Model Year:
2012-2014
VIN:
596988-704986
Assembly Plant:
Solihull
MARKETS:
All
CONDITION SUMMARY:
Situation: A customer may express a concern that the navigation system reverts to a default location for their region. There are 2 failure modes, either intermittent or permanent as described below.
• Intermittent

1. After starting the vehicle, the voice notification "Welcome to the [country name]" is played.
2. On entering the Navigation after start-up, the vehicle icon shows itself in the region default, for example Belgium. Once GPS signal is acquired the vehicle icon jumps back to the actual location and the voice notification "Welcome to the [country name]" is played.
3. All other features of the Navigation system work normally.
• Permanent

This only exists in Integrated Audio Module (IAM) MCM-E level units. To find out what hardware is fitted to the vehicle select the "Part Information" icon on the Vehicle Statement Of Health (VSOH) on SDD.
1. After starting the vehicle, the voice notification "Welcome to the [country name]" is played.
2. On entering the Navigation after start-up, the vehicle icon shows itself in the region default, for example Belgium. Once GPS signal is acquired the vehicle icon jumps back to the actual location and the voice notification "Welcome to the [country name]" is played.
In addition
After starting the vehicle:
-Previous Destination list is unavailable (all items are deleted, button is greyed out).
-In EU, Destination entry by Postcode is unavailable (button is greyed out) .
-Search area changes to region default, example Belgium.
-Current route is removed (deleted) in next ignition cycle.
This version has been created to update the Parts section.
Cause: A software issue or hard fault with the IAM.
Suggested Customer Concern Code - A59.
noteNOTE: You must carry out the instruction to download the latest software first, under no circumstance must a module be ordered or replaced until it has been confirmed that the software update has not resolved the issue and all of the symptoms for module replacement are confirmed.

Action: Should a customer express concern, follow the Diagnostic Procedure below.
Intermittent - Download new software to the IAM.
Permanent - Replace the IAM.
PARTS:
noteNOTE: Please refer to Microcat for any updates to these part numbers.

LR071116
Integrated Audio Module - ASIA
Quantity: 1
LR079509
Integrated Audio Module - EURO
Quantity: 1
LR079510
Integrated Audio Module - NAS
Quantity: 1
LR079512
Integrated Audio Module - ROW
Quantity: 1
LR065361
Integrated Audio Module - ROW2
Quantity: 1
TOOLS:
E179225

JLR approved diagnostic tool.
DVD143.03 and Calibration File 219 loaded or later
E179226

JLR approved battery support unit
WARRANTY:
noteNOTE: Repair procedures are under constant review, and therefore times are subject to change; those quoted here must be taken as guidance only. Always refer to TOPIx to obtain the latest repair time.
noteNOTE: DDW requires the use of causal part numbers. Labor only claims must show the causal part number with a quantity of zero.
DESCRIPTION
SRO
TIME (HOURS)
CONDITION CODE
CAUSAL PART
Configure existing module - Integrated Audio Module
86.90.37
0.7
42
LR052071
Freelander 2/LR2 (LF) - Head unit - renew
86.50.81
0.4
42
LR052071
Range Rover Evoque (LV) - Head unit - renew
86.50.81
0.4
42
LR052071
Discovery 4/LR4 (LA) - Head unit - renew
86.50.81
1.1
42
LR052071
Range Rover Sport (LS) - Head unit - renew
86.50.81
0.6
42
LR052071
Range Rover (LG) - Head unit - renew
86.50.81
0.5
42
LR052071
noteNOTE: Normal Warranty procedures apply.
DIAGNOSTIC PROCEDURE:
noteNOTE: The Integrated Audio Module (IAM) may be also referred to as the Audio Control Module (ACM).

Intermittent Fault.

1cautionCAUTION: This procedure requires DVD143.03 and Calibration File 219 loaded or later.

Connect the JLR approved battery support unit.

2Connect the JLR approved diagnostic tool to the vehicle and begin a new diagnostic session, by reading the VIN for the current vehicle and initiating the data collect sequence.

3Follow the prompts.

4Where no internet access is available.

1. Select the Diagnosis Session Type.

2. Select the Symptoms tab and enter any of the following Symptom(s).

• Electrical - Information and entertainment system - Navigation system.

3. Select the Recommendations tab.

4. Configure existing module - Audio front control module.

5When all tasks are complete, exit the current session by selecting the Session tab and then selecting the Close Session option.

6Disconnect the JLR approved diagnostic tool and battery support unit.

Permanent fault - IAM MCM-E units only

7Replace the Integrated Audio Module (see TOPIx Workshop Manual, section 415-00). 2012 5.0 SC AB
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Post #584451 Thu Jul 25 2019 5:42pm
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Col



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Markymark wrote:
P.S. my antenna is in the side windows I have no external shark fin


That's rather strange as I thought all the sports had the roof antenna for the GPS. when I had a antenna issue the car never defaulted to Belgium it just didn't know where it was at any time.

Cheers
Col

Post #584469 Thu Jul 25 2019 9:11pm
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Brit Plumber



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England 2012 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Autobiography Fuji White

According to the wiring diagrams and workshop manual, both the RRS and LR4 have the GPS in the shark fin. The rear 1/4 windows have 3 antennas per side. 2 for Tv, 2 for DAB and 2 for AM/FM.

So any GPS in the window is aftermarket. 2012 5.0 SC AB
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2014 LR4 Homelink
2016 FFRR Electrochromatic Wing Mirror Glass

70 plate Focus ST (Current)
1942 VEP Ford GPW Jeep (Willys) (Current)
1943 Whites M16 Halftrack (Current)
16 plate Eurofighter Typhoon, 2 x Eurojet engines with 20,000lbs thrust each. 1380mph

Post #584470 Thu Jul 25 2019 9:30pm
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Brit Plumber



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England 2012 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Autobiography Fuji White

Or are we talking a 2013 reg 2014 MY L494? 2012 5.0 SC AB
Mods:
TPMS
Genuine LR DRLs
Remote Boot close from key fob
2016 Discovery 4 Mirrors AKA RRS2
2014 L405 Surround Camera retro fit (WIP)
2013 RRS Dual View Screen fit (Complete)
2016 LR4 RSE
2014 LR4 Homelink
2016 FFRR Electrochromatic Wing Mirror Glass

70 plate Focus ST (Current)
1942 VEP Ford GPW Jeep (Willys) (Current)
1943 Whites M16 Halftrack (Current)
16 plate Eurofighter Typhoon, 2 x Eurojet engines with 20,000lbs thrust each. 1380mph

Post #584473 Thu Jul 25 2019 9:34pm
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Col



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I think even the RRS2 antenna is roof mounted in the UK market, although there is some aerial/antenna fitted in the rear spoiler for something.

Cheers
Col

Post #584476 Thu Jul 25 2019 9:56pm
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