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Paddi



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Java Black

Good rant Laughing but I don't thinks anyone was really having a go at you.

To get back on topic I don't think you can have a switch to go from one map to another since changing maps involves overwriting the ECU firmware and that can't be done instantly. Some exotic cars do have switchable modes but I'm guessing that involves a whole lot more electronics hardware.

With those rubbish so-called 'tuning' boxes (that are really just a fancy box with a resistor inside to fool the ECU into overfuelling the engine) it is possible to have a switch but that's different and not what you are looking for. 2008 MY Java Black TDV8 HSE

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Andy K



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England 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Rimini Red

I'm sure the old M5's use the sport or Race button.

For example, normal mode, 300bhp, sport mode 500bhp.
The button adjust all sorts of things, throttle response, gear shift, power, suspension, traction control cut in etc.


The old astra 200bhp FWD also has a sport button on the dash, I assume this limits the power. Very useful for a powerful FWD.
Even the 150bhp diesel had a button.

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Disco_Mikey



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport Supercharged HSE Santorini Black

But the buttons were all integrated from the start by the factory Thumbs Up

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Socast



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Santorini Black

TBH while I had my fingers crossed in hope, I kind of already knew that the answer was going to be no Big Cry

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Disco_Mikey



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Either way, you won't be disappointed Thumbs Up

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Socast



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Santorini Black

I've changed the exhaust, I'm debating whether to have the top pulley and a remap done at the same time..

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SRE



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Socast
It may be beneficial to post some info about your car, year miles etc etc.
Also talk to BAS and Alive. In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

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TheWojtek



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Poland 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Buckingham Blue

Socast wrote:
I've changed the exhaust, I'm debating whether to have the top pulley and a remap done at the same time..

This is beneficial. There's no way to make a switchable map, however if driven lightly you will see a small improvement in MPG, since you'll be running a tad leaner and the ignition adjustment will allow the mixture to burn better. Any wider throttle opening, however, you'll be using bucketloads of fuel. Regards etc.,

Wojtek

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Buckster



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England 2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

My SDV6 is Alive! Pulls like a train now and the torque is superb. Thumbs Up 2003 BMW M5 - 5 Litres of V8 Optimax Slurping Goodness in Carbon Black

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Ezituper



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged HST Java Black

Isn't saying "or thought about doing any of those tacky 'mods" just as snide as the remarks you were complaining about?

I'm also trying find someone to fit a smaller pulley and remap, I am however concerned my most local options don't have a rolling road so are just flashing generic tunes.

As we proved on the SRT8 forum this can be dangerous at worst but at best only part way to a proper tune.

After testing 10 "identical" cars before and after tuning they all differed to some extent, the best and worst differed by over 40hp.

When they were given individual tunes not generic ones they all released more HP and the differential reduced to only 12 HP from worst to best.

Most generic tunes are "safe" as the original tuner has little or no idea what else you might have done to your car

Can any one help with a company who install smaller pulleys, tune and rolling Rioja do test the results ?

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Socast



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Santorini Black

My remark about the 'mods' could be considered to be snide, but it wasn't directed at anyone and it was also an opinion rather than an insult.



http://www.powerhouse.uk/index.php

Pretty much the only people in the UK that specialise in machining the nose cone down etc.

Changing the pulley will give you an increased boost at low revs, giving you more power at launch, however the supercharger starts to loose power once it hits 15,500rpm so by putting a smaller pulley on you're moving the power lower down the rpm range and decreasing the life of the charger. Not only that but at higher rpms the eaton charger develops an inordinate ammount of heat, so unless you improve the intercoolers you're not really going to see any benefits (other than a frantic 40 second dash followed by an asthmatic limp while everything cools down).

The best/safest mods for this engine (when on a relative budget) is to replace the exhaust with a stainless high flow system and removing the cats at the same time, improved intercoolers and aux pump all rounded off nicely with a remap (from what I've seen Alive are one of the most trustworthy).

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Tyrefitter



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United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 Autobiography Fuji White

15,500rpm Shocked Shocked

Andy Andy.
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Socast



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Santorini Black

Thats the supercharger speed, not the engine speed, I've had a look round and can't find the ratio that the charger spins at comparatively to the engine.

This website gives ratios for the Eaton M112 based on upper and lower pulley sizes. But as I'm at work and don't know how big the stock pulleys are I'm unable to say when you'll hit th 15.5k boost limit.

http://planetsoarer.com/boost/boost.htm

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Ezituper



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged HST Java Black

Good info but I'm confused why various sites say you can get 40-50hp from a 10% pulley but you say it goes asthmatic and does nothing

I've been on various forums long enough to ask where this info came from?

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Col



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New Zealand 2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Autobiography Santorini Black

Not sure about ratio's or rpm for that matter but I do know Alive Tuning re-mapped my 5.0L S/C and fitted upgraded s/c pulley and it pulls like a train all the way with no noticable "tail off". According to their rolling road it's producing 560+bhp and 750Nm torque. Twisted Evil

CheersCol

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