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Silverstone



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Grabber AT3 tyre pressure advice

Following on from yesterday's thread on my fitting Grabber AT3's to my L320 last night I checked the tyre pressures. The garage had set the pressures at about 3.3 bar (48 PSI). Checking the label inside the driver's door it advises 2.3 bar (33 PSI) front and 2.5 bar (36 PSI) rear. Hence I adjusted to these pressures using my reliable tyre pressure gauge once the tyres were cold.

Now the tyres look very low. See image below. I have even checked the pressures again with a different gauge to see if there was any error in readings.

Anyone else running Grabber AT3's in 275/40/ R20 or similar running higher than normal tyre pressures?



 There is no replacement for displacement - W O Bentley

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RRSTDV8



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I think ATs do look like they're low pressure because of all of the lumps on the sidewall compared to the smooth sidewalls of road tyres.

I run my AT tyres a couple of psi higher than the recommended i.e. 35f and 38r. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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Silverstone



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Thank you RRSTDV8 - I will adjust to (or possibly just above) 35 and 38 PSI tonight. I was worried about the slight side wall bulge out too. Hope the extra few PSI will sort this. There is no replacement for displacement - W O Bentley

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Yep I run 36F 38R (habit - it's what the BMW likes, too) and the fronts do always look a bit 'flat' to me.. slowly getting used to it and not reaching for the compressor every time now! Laughing 2014 BMW 530d Touring, 2006 BMW 650i, 2018 Mini Cooper S

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MGO



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i've always ran with 45 - 48 psi on fronts. 50psi on the rears.
never had any trouble with wearing or traction.

anything less than 40pis and the tyres are soft looking and much higher rolling resistance. feels wrong on steering also. 2007 TDV6 RRS HSE..now gone
2012 3.0 SDV6 RRS HSE

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Silverstone



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It looks like 38-40 PSI might be a good call. If I never tow, carry heavy luggage, etc is there any reason to run higher pressures in rear tyres anyway (I would have thought more weight in front of an L320 than rear)? Therefore, now thinking of experimenting at 38-40 PSI for both front and rear equally. There is no replacement for displacement - W O Bentley

MY2013 5.0 Supercharged HSE L320

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MGO wrote:
i've always ran with 45 - 48 psi on fronts. 50psi on the rears.
never had any trouble with wearing or traction.

anything less than 40pis and the tyres are soft looking and much higher rolling resistance. feels wrong on steering also.

Wow.

Just wow.

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Silverstone wrote:
It looks like 38-40 PSI might be a good call. If I never tow, carry heavy luggage, etc is there any reason to run higher pressures in rear tyres anyway (I would have thought more weight in front of an L320 than rear)? Therefore, now thinking of experimenting at 38-40 PSI for both front and rear equally.


Running the rears slightly higher is a way of taming the handling. If the fronts and rears are equal pressures, there's a chance that the vehicle can be tail happy. Even more so if the rears are lower pressure than the fronts. With something that is tall and relatively rolly-polly, you increase the risk of roll-induced oversteer. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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Silverstone



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As an experiment tonight I've increased front and rear to 45 PSI and might then lower the fronts slightly if appropriate. There is no replacement for displacement - W O Bentley

MY2013 5.0 Supercharged HSE L320

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45psi is ridiculous, frankly. But hey, they're your tyres and suspension bushes... 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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MGO wrote:
i've always ran with 45 - 48 psi on fronts. 50psi on the rears.
never had any trouble with wearing or traction.

anything less than 40pis and the tyres are soft looking and much higher rolling resistance. feels wrong on steering also.


Surely running at those kind off pressures you might as well have solid tyres, or at least buy a neck and back brace. Laughing

Cheers
Col

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MGO



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like i said.
it hasnt been a problem for me.
been running RRS for over 10 years and i wouldnt have it any other way.
winter tyres on these days and usually run at 45.

anything below 40 and the tyres are way too soft in my opinion.
certainly not good enough for the rears when towing. 2007 TDV6 RRS HSE..now gone
2012 3.0 SDV6 RRS HSE

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RRSTDV8 wrote:
MGO wrote:
i've always ran with 45 - 48 psi on fronts. 50psi on the rears.
never had any trouble with wearing or traction.

anything less than 40pis and the tyres are soft looking and much higher rolling resistance. feels wrong on steering also.

Wow.

Just wow.

Shocked


horses for courses as you say Whistle 2007 TDV6 RRS HSE..now gone
2012 3.0 SDV6 RRS HSE

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MGO wrote:
like i said.
it hasnt been a problem for me.
been running RRS for over 10 years and i wouldnt have it any other way.
winter tyres on these days and usually run at 45.

anything below 40 and the tyres are way too soft in my opinion.
certainly not good enough for the rears when towing.

What are you towing? I tow a twin axle horse trailer and the tyres are fine at standard factory pressures. How much nose weight are you running? 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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MGO



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periodically towing 12' itwin axle for williams with near enough 3 tons overall.
nose weight shouldnt be over the 150kg as the trailer is well balanced.

never tried towing less than 48psi on the rears.
not dismissing your view on it. i'm sure would be perfectly fine towing at 40.

i just never experienced any downside with the higher pressures.
tyre wear is good. i get good milage out of the tyres. they wear perfectly even.
on over 300000 km with the previous RRS, i only had to change the front outer balljoints once and the rear upper wishbone. So not seeing any impact on suspension either. 2007 TDV6 RRS HSE..now gone
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