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1JBS



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 SE Orkney Grey

So glad it works, I am now on my third tank of the oil diesel mix and it is working really well. Thumbs Up

Post #281323 Sun Nov 28 2010 6:24pm
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Brennie



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England 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Buckingham Blue
2 stoke oil

Hi all i put 300ml in full tank last week end and it seem gr8 untill this week end on way back from bluewater i experienced lack of power and lots of smoking whether this has anything to do with it or not i wont find out till 2moro when my mechanic scans the car Sad

Post #281334 Sun Nov 28 2010 8:02pm
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drdelrrs



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Lux Orkney Grey

300 ml in a tank full (85lt) is too much, next time you see a two stoke m/c touch the inside of the exhaust - if you really are going to do it; 100ml is OK - 150 ml max.

Post #281337 Sun Nov 28 2010 8:23pm
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flydive



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Switzerland 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Stornoway Grey

Well, according to YF on the fl2 site the rate should be 1:200, so 300 ml is even a bit on the low side.

Been adding that dose since new, now 30'000 km and no problems of smoke or else. '08 RRS TDV8
I converted my diesel RRS to run on an environmentally friendly mixture of caribou fat and baby seals oil

Post #281341 Sun Nov 28 2010 8:30pm
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drdelrrs



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Lux Orkney Grey

It's a judgement call.

I'm just giving my opinion as a auto design engineer. I have no idea how well qualified YF is or isn't.

Just consider that 2stroke engines rarely have very fine fuel filters, v.high pressure injection etc and 2stroke oils have, by design, very sticky properties. I'd also be slightly concerned that the oil control piston rings in the diesel engine may not function well with any significant traces of 2stroke oil so we'd want to keep the quantities small to ensure the combustion burn temperature wasn't lowered/raised and we inadvertently increased the unburnt portion that stayed as residue on the cylinder walls and found its way into the turbo.

After years of runing all sorts of fuels and mixtures for some very strange competition engines my view is that there may be some advanatge to the marginal additional lubrication of pumps etc but this only needs very minute traces hence my view on the 100ml. But I wouldn't go to war over the issue.

Post #281345 Sun Nov 28 2010 9:01pm
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lilweliwell



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Ireland 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Alaska White

I'm going to join you guys...just quick question...i bought 2 stroke oil semisynthetic API TC, JASO FB - Red mix. What does it mean RED MIX? Is it OK?

Post #282160 Mon Dec 06 2010 10:33pm
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JimboTD5



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England 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV6 S Buckingham Blue

Hi lilweliwell

I am also using 2 stroke oil in my RRS, its made an amazing difference.

I beleive "FB" is fine for engines without a DPF, if you have a DPF you should oil rated "FC" or above. The colour will make no difference, this topic has been well covered on the FL2 topic.

I am using the recommended mix of 1:200 which is just over 400 ml to a full tank.

Jim

Post #282162 Mon Dec 06 2010 10:45pm
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lilweliwell



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Ireland 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Alaska White

Hi Jim,

I am not sure about DPF (You ment particular Filter?)...have 2005 2.7 TDV6 SE...How can I check if the car is fitted with DPF or not? (Not first owner)

Post #282166 Mon Dec 06 2010 10:58pm
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JimboTD5



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England 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV6 S Buckingham Blue

Hi lilweliwell

I am pretty sure you will not have a diesel particulate filter on your car, mine is a 2008 2.7 and does not have the DPF, however I seem to remember seeing this as an optional extra (but I may be wrong).

Sorry I could not be any more help, the best bet is to buy "FC" rated 2 stroke no problem then!! I buy mine from Screwfix £4.49/ltr.

Jim

Post #282174 Tue Dec 07 2010 12:11am
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lilweliwell



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Ireland 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Alaska White

JimboTD5 wrote:
Hi lilweliwell

I am pretty sure you will not have a diesel particulate filter on your car, mine is a 2008 2.7 and does not have the DPF, however I seem to remember seeing this as an optional extra (but I may be wrong).

Sorry I could not be any more help, the best bet is to buy "FC" rated 2 stroke no problem then!! I buy mine from Screwfix £4.49/ltr.

Jim


I am asking just because I am second owner and don't have any clue if is there or not...I will use rather "FC rated" 2 stroke...just in case.

Thanks anyway

Post #282175 Tue Dec 07 2010 12:23am
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avos



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It is already some time ago that I read most of the articles, and what I noticed was that a small mixture of Bio diesel would already give a much better effect.

As here in Belgium biodiesel is already mixed with the fosil based diesel (irrc 10%, so a B10) i didn't proceed obviously. RRS SDV6 HEV Dynamic
XKR 700 BHP with Twin-screw and LSD

Post #282191 Tue Dec 07 2010 8:15am
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lilweliwell



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Ireland 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Alaska White

By accident I empty 500 ml bottle of 2 stroke in my tank...i didn't measure 300ml at home and on the petrol station i had phone call and completly forgot what I am doing....my bad. Than I filled full tank. Is it big deal? Can this cause some damage?

Post #282301 Wed Dec 08 2010 2:00am
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1JBS



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 SE Orkney Grey

You should be fine as some say 300ml or 400ml to a full tank, so I wouldn't worry, maybe top up with just diesel when it is quarter full. Let me know how you get on. Smile

Post #282317 Wed Dec 08 2010 10:44am
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JimboTD5



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England 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV6 S Buckingham Blue

Hi

500ml should be fine, its been covered before if you read through this thread you will find reference to it.

http://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/topic10453.html?highlight=2+stroke

Jim

Post #282319 Wed Dec 08 2010 10:51am
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drdelrrs



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Lux Orkney Grey

So we've seen recommendations on this thread go from 200ml to 500ml; why not go on and add a litre, that'll be about 80:1 !!!

Your lawnmower will run fine on 50:1 and that's ALL the lubrication it needs while running a many more revs.

Just for good measure and to give a nice qiet engine you could relace the 30w engine oil for a 90w hypoid as used in rear axles - it will be REALLY quiet then - for a little while!! Best of luck with any warranty claim (Land Rover or after- market)

As an auto-engineer I'd strongly recommend you don't do it - if you don't intend keeping your RRS for long you probably get away with it.

Post #282413 Wed Dec 08 2010 8:59pm
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