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NickM

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Jaguar Land Rover makes £55m in return to profit

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8539679.stm

Sat Feb 27 2010 12:39am

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Sat Feb 27 2010 10:16am

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Tim, first of all you ought to ask yourself what percentage of the components is actually produced in the UK?

These plants are only assembly plants any way. OK, they have a long lasting British heritage. But so what? This does not contribute to the bottom line. Be it Tata or any other person on this plant you do business to make money. And if something is not doing so you are looking for alternative solutions. You are very wrong assuming that the labour cost in countries as Poland is so much different to the UK. Those couple of percent will just not justify the expense of manufacturing transfer and subsequent increase in logistics costs. The motivation rather comes from government incentives.

I have spent on this particular topic a number of years and hate to hear this argument from people. It especially applies when you are taking their work to a "low cost" country. Why the f have they not tried to save their ass by giving more to the work they do. Simple answer is because they f don't care about the company. They want their £7/hour for nothing forgetting that the company is not a cash cow. It just needs to make money as well.

Look at the efficiency figures in the British automotive industry and then look at the number of directs per generated output. These people just do not deliver expected results. So what? There are f billions of people on the globe who would love to their job and strive to deliver what is being asked from them. The managers know this and my question is why should they not use it?

In the end of the day I am sorry to say but the morale needs to go to the side when business applies in difficult times as we are facing now.

And I am also really sorry about the language I have used but I know this topic too well not to share my view

Sat Feb 27 2010 11:32am

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Sat Feb 27 2010 12:02pm

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C10KO wrote:
Tim, first of all you ought to ask yourself what percentage of the components is actually produced in the UK?

the car got lots of german products build in China

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Sat Feb 27 2010 1:58pm

zoo

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they certainly haven't made any profit out of my Extended Warranty!!

Sat Feb 27 2010 8:39pm

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Very Annoyed wrote:
TB care to comment?

I don't need to justify the work efforts of any of my workforce or work colleagues VA. The changes that have been made to working practices at all three Jaguar Land Rover Manufacturing plants over the last two years are well documented to anyone that cares to do the correct research. I feel it is safe to say that the whole Jaguar Land Rover work force are working a lot harder for their money than they have ever done in the past.

C10K0 obviously has some strong views on what he thinks is happening within the British Automotive Industry. But he is obviously using a lot of old data, especially if he thinks the average worker earns £7 per hour. Arctic Frost TDV6 SE. Aspen Leather, Cherry Wood, Privacy Glass, PTI, Tow Pack, Mudflaps, Tasmods, a new Fuelflap, a RRSport.co.uk umbrella in the boot & a RRSport.co.uk sticker on the rear glass.
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Sun Feb 28 2010 9:16pm

C10KO

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TB wrote:
I don't need to justify the work efforts of any of my workforce or work colleagues.

All I would say to that is LUCKY YOU mate. I wish all of us would have your workforce then

Sun Feb 28 2010 9:36pm

C10KO

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TB wrote:
C10K0 obviously has some strong views on what he thinks is happening within the British Automotive Industry.

And to be honest i don't really care about British Automotive Industry. I simply hate blinded views against cheap eastern workforce, be it Poles or Chinese

Sun Feb 28 2010 9:57pm

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Sun Feb 28 2010 10:56pm

4wheeldriver

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zoo wrote:
they certainly haven't made any profit out of my Extended Warranty!!

Likewise with mine and its not 9 months old yet! Been stuck at the dealers for, well this is the start of the 6th week today and out of that I've had it 6 days!

Must be costing a fortune in labour and parts they've shipped to the dealer to try! Current, M135i in Estoril Blue with more extras than the cast of Ben Hur.

535d m-sport Platinum grey and a few extras.... Gone

X5 3.0 sd in Space Grey, 20's, Dynamic Pack, Memory Pack, Media Pack, Tow Pack, Rear DVD, Panoramic Sunroof, Steps, 7 Seat Pack, Reversing Camera with moving lines, programmable park heat, etc etc etc - Gone

Range Rover Sport Santorini, privacy, dvd, towpack GONE!!!

Mon Mar 01 2010 8:52am

C10KO

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zoo wrote:
they certainly haven't made any profit out of my Extended Warranty!!

4wheeldriver wrote:
Likewise with mine and its not 9 months old yet! Been stuck at the dealers for, well this is the start of the 6th week today and out of that I've had it 6 days!

Must be costing a fortune in labour and parts they've shipped to the dealer to try!

... this is the output generated by well payed workforce that people as TB are so proud of. Kind of explains why British manufacturers have been falling short to replicate competitive advantages of their rivals

Mon Mar 01 2010 10:51am

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