Has anybody in the UK had this problem? My 2010 RRS 3.0 started blowing clouds of traffic-obscuring blue (oil) smoke under sharp acceleration shortly after being serviced a couple of months ago.

It would only happen intermittently, ie I'd get it to blow a big cloud of smoke then try it again and nothing would happen.

The local LR dealer replaced the secondary turbo under warranty, which didn't fix the problem. Then last week they replaced the replacement turbo with another (modified) turbo, said that would fix the problem, and it didn't.

So today they're telling me it's because at the second turbo replacement, a one-way valve and a dump valve should have been replaced at the same time, and weren't. So now it's booked in again for its (almost) weekly warranty work as soon as the parts arrive.

They replaced secondary turbos on a dozen 3.0 Discos and RRSs at this dealer alone, so it's not exactly an uncommon problem. Anybody else heard of this issue? Greg Milner
Perth, Western Australia

2010 RRS 3.0. For towing boats and bashing corrugated outback roads.
2007 Audi TT Quattro (wife's shopping cart. Time to go)
2013 Polo GTI (wife's new shopping cart.)
2007 Holden Caprice V8 ('cos it's not worth selling it)

There is a Technical Bulletin titled "LTB00358v5 - Secondary Turbo Oil Leak Excessive Exhaust Smoke" on TOPIx.

Sounds a good candidate and it's on Version 5 so they have had a number of goes at solving the problem so maybe the garage did the work to an earlier version and have since seen a later one.

Okay thanks Bob I'll take a look at it. Greg Milner
Perth, Western Australia

2010 RRS 3.0. For towing boats and bashing corrugated outback roads.
2007 Audi TT Quattro (wife's shopping cart. Time to go)
2013 Polo GTI (wife's new shopping cart.)
2007 Holden Caprice V8 ('cos it's not worth selling it)

gmilner wrote:

Has anybody in the UK had this problem?

Since i`m no from the UK, hope that i`m still allowed to answer your question

Had the same thing after the anual service and a repair on the engine (not the turbo).
LR had to remove the plastic turbo pipe to make the repair.
During the reinstal they obviously damaged it, so when i picked it up, it blew the famous tons of blue smoke.

After replacing the cracked turbo pipe (of course not under guaranty, since they just denied damaging it) there was no more smoke.

Hope this helps!  SW

Sometimes it is not enough to do our best;
sometimes we must do what is required.

2005 RRS HSE 2.7 TDV6
Now: 2016 RRS HSE DYNAMIC 3.0 TDV6

Yep, sounds exactly what's happened in my case. Thanks for the confirmation:-) Greg Milner
Perth, Western Australia

2010 RRS 3.0. For towing boats and bashing corrugated outback roads.
2007 Audi TT Quattro (wife's shopping cart. Time to go)
2013 Polo GTI (wife's new shopping cart.)
2007 Holden Caprice V8 ('cos it's not worth selling it)

I have exactly the same on a 4.4 full fat range rover which only started after the turbos were warranty replaced. What is it exactly that's causing the blue smoke in your cases? Mine only seems to do it after a long run and only when I slow back down eh in traffic. Only lasts about 10mins or so and then is fine again with no smoke until the next time.

Ielk2001 - best go over to www.fullfatrr.com for your issue as the 4.4 is a totally different engine to the 3.0 RRS motor.
What you describe is well documented over there
How often do you open the car up above 2500rpm? If you don't then oil is building up in the secondary turbo. There is a cure called the turbo drain mod. Not many places will do it as it's a totally different procedure on the 4.4. It involves a lot more work and drilling into the block/sump for a thread.
https://www.fullfatrr.com/gallery/albums/u...20Smke.pdf
Alternatively, give it some beans every time you drive it (when engine is warm). That way it won't accumulate over time.
See you over on the other forum  Visitor from fullfatrr.com
* GONE. 2012 RR Sport HSE SDV6 Orkney Grey. Now being piloted by RRSTDV8
* Current: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Full Fat. Amazing piece of kit.
* Current. 1974 Lightweight 2.25L petrol. Old skool
* GONE. Freelander GS TD4 Manual MY2013. Orkney Grey with privacy, cold and clearview packs, armrests (a must!) and a spoiler.
* GONE. Range Rover Classic '93 200Tdi Factory fit
* 1949 80" in family since 1975

Thanks, will check there!

Best place for 4.4. advice.
Also check all your intercooler hoses.
Where in West Sussex are you? I'm in that area too Visitor from fullfatrr.com
* GONE. 2012 RR Sport HSE SDV6 Orkney Grey. Now being piloted by RRSTDV8
* Current: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Full Fat. Amazing piece of kit.
* Current. 1974 Lightweight 2.25L petrol. Old skool
* GONE. Freelander GS TD4 Manual MY2013. Orkney Grey with privacy, cold and clearview packs, armrests (a must!) and a spoiler.
* GONE. Range Rover Classic '93 200Tdi Factory fit
* 1949 80" in family since 1975

Down in Worthing....cedar garage are awesome for RR repairs and servicing....

Yes, heard good reviews about them. What's their diagnosis??? Visitor from fullfatrr.com
* GONE. 2012 RR Sport HSE SDV6 Orkney Grey. Now being piloted by RRSTDV8
* Current: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Full Fat. Amazing piece of kit.
* Current. 1974 Lightweight 2.25L petrol. Old skool
* GONE. Freelander GS TD4 Manual MY2013. Orkney Grey with privacy, cold and clearview packs, armrests (a must!) and a spoiler.
* GONE. Range Rover Classic '93 200Tdi Factory fit
* 1949 80" in family since 1975

It's going in next week so will let you know!

gmilner wrote:

Has anybody in the UK had this problem? My 2010 RRS 3.0 started blowing clouds of traffic-obscuring blue (oil) smoke under sharp acceleration shortly after being serviced a couple of months ago.

It would only happen intermittently, ie I'd get it to blow a big cloud of smoke then try it again and nothing would happen.

The local LR dealer replaced the secondary turbo under warranty, which didn't fix the problem. Then last week they replaced the replacement turbo with another (modified) turbo, said that would fix the problem, and it didn't.

So today they're telling me it's because at the second turbo replacement, a one-way valve and a dump valve should have been replaced at the same time, and weren't. So now it's booked in again for its (almost) weekly warranty work as soon as the parts arrive.

They replaced secondary turbos on a dozen 3.0 Discos and RRSs at this dealer alone, so it's not exactly an uncommon problem. Anybody else heard of this issue?

Mine is the same although mine (full fat RR 4.4) only started after both turbos were replaced. Only intermittent too and I'm in UK. Will let you all know once fixed what was wrong but any ideas welcome as garage have already indicated if will be difficult if nothing obvious and not doing it when it goes in. So far I'm unable to reliably replicate the smoke.