shmoogle wrote:

The figures look good. Given the spec, LR will need to position it well to not kill SC sales....

Tim in Scotland wrote:

OK reading on a bit.....................
Top Speed is limited in the FFRR TDv8 to 124mph
Ouput is 272bhp on 472lb-ft torque (50 more than the S/C FFRR)
0-60 is 8secs
It has 3630cc capacity, 32 valves, twin turbos, 90 degree V (TDv6 is 60 degrees so it must be a totally new engine not a delevopement of TDv6!) Twin camshafts and is rated as one of the worlds quiestest and smoothest diesels.

Economy in the FFRR is 25.1 mpg and it has Terrain Response, and LROI reckon it will be the biggest selling RR by far....................

Form an orderly queue behind me for the RRS version please.

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Tim in Scotland wrote:

One thing it doesn't say is how low down it reaches the maximum torque - it will probably pretty low like it is in all LR diesels to help the offroad-ablity. There is also no mention of Dynamic pack being fitted to the FFRR.
The article says that the same engine will be going into the Jaguar XJ........... less weight, lower,sleeker................... that will be some car!

Tim, I believe that this engine was developed for two principle reasons.

1. Give Jag the diesel option they so desperately need for XJ/XK
2. Replace expensive and uncultured BM D in the RR

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I perhaps would have bought this 1st time round - if it had been available then. But, would cost me dearly to change now - and for no clear benefit  
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Also in Autocar, some of the other bits the TDv8 RR will get:
Prices to start c £55000 (gulp! cheapest RR now is £46k)
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Autocar wrote:

There's not much wrong with the way the Range Rover looks, so it's not surprising that Land Rover has hardly changed the big 4x4's exterior. It's what's under the bonnet that really counts. The 2007 model-year Range Rover will now available with a new V8 turbodiesel that massively improves the car's 0-60mph time.

A development of the 2.7-litre TDV6 used in the Discovery, the V8's 272bhp and 472lb ft means it significantly outperforms the outgoing BMW-sourced 3.0-litre diesel. Land Rover claims a 0-60mph time of 8.5sec, down from 12.7sec, a top speed of 124mph and a 50-70mph time that's better by 40 per cent. Quoted fuel economy stays much the same, at 25.1mpg.

The V8 has been designed to work off road; in order to keep the oil flowing to the turbos at extreme angles, Land Rover has developed a vacuum lubrication system. And it has added the five-mode Terrain Response system from the Discovery as standard on all Range Rovers, along with the Supercharged's electronic rear differential. The TDV8 also gets the Supercharged's Brembo brakes.

Inside, the changes are less dramatic than expected, with a new dash that retains the trademark vertical wooden spars. The handbrake is now electric, operated by a button on the centre console.

Prices for the facelifted car look set to start at about £55k, but you're going to have to wait for the TDV8, as it doesn't go on sale until November.

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Autocar wrote:

There's not much wrong with the way the Range Rover looks, so it's not surprising that Land Rover has hardly changed the big 4x4's exterior. It's what's under the bonnet that really counts. The 2007 model-year Range Rover will now available with a new V8 turbodiesel that massively improves the car's 0-60mph time.

A development of the 2.7-litre TDV6 used in the Discovery, the V8's 272bhp and 472lb ft means it significantly outperforms the outgoing BMW-sourced 3.0-litre diesel. Land Rover claims a 0-60mph time of 8.5sec, down from 12.7sec, a top speed of 124mph and a 50-70mph time that's better by 40 per cent. Quoted fuel economy stays much the same, at 25.1mpg.

The V8 has been designed to work off road; in order to keep the oil flowing to the turbos at extreme angles, Land Rover has developed a vacuum lubrication system. And it has added the five-mode Terrain Response system from the Discovery as standard on all Range Rovers, along with the Supercharged's electronic rear differential. The TDV8 also gets the Supercharged's Brembo brakes.

Inside, the changes are less dramatic than expected, with a new dash that retains the trademark vertical wooden spars. The handbrake is now electric, operated by a button on the centre console.

Prices for the facelifted car look set to start at about £55k, but you're going to have to wait for the TDV8, as it doesn't go on sale until November.

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I personally wont ever move over to diesel they smell, plus you can't wheel spin a diesel!!!!!!! enough said I will go back into my box now.

There speaks a man living in the dark that obviously has never driven a modern diesel



Nice article on the revised FFRR and TDV8 here 

A lot of thumping low down torque in a TDV8 Misery. I think if you can wheel spin a S/C, you could spin a TDV8? Runner up - 2009 Best Avatar Award
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Oh yes I have I have driven a few LR Disco and Freelanders when mine has gone in for a service, I am sorry but I just can't seem to get excited about them. If the main reason for owning one is fuel comsumption don't buy a Land Rover buy a Nissan Micra

A friend has a BMW diesel and that ok but there is still a diiference. I know I sound a bit of a but LR's have never been good on fuel consumption. Can you get excited by the sound of a diesel or a throbbing V8????????.

I wont say anymore more just incase you all stop talking to me.

Misery, apparantly the TDV8 sounds as good as a petrol V8.

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Thanks for the link SLIMER - this was good reading  
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[quote="Tim in Scotland"]OK reading on a bit.....................
Ouput is 272bhp on 472lb-ft torque (50 more than the S/C FFRR)
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Tim, you mean Torque figures right? Not BHP.

BHP in the 4.2 SC engine is about 390, as opposed to the 272 you quoted here. L319 D4 HSE

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Range Rover takes Ford’s new V8 engine
31 May 2006

THE Range Rover has become the first model to be powered by Ford’s new twin-turbocharged 3.6-litre V8 diesel engine.

Offering 272bhp and a mountainous 472lb-ft of torque – more than a Ferrari 599 – the new Range Rover TDV8 is 54% more powerful than the TDV6 unit it replaces. As well as offering increased performance – the 0-62mph time is cut by four seconds to 9.2 seconds – the new V8 has the same fuel economy as the old engine at 25.1mpg combined.

Range Rover also claims significant gains in refinement, with noise levels in the cabin reduced by 75%. It also claims improved braking and handling.

As with the rest of the 2007 model year range, the TDV8 gains better interior storage space, a redesigned centre console, electronic parking brake and improved switchgear and stereo.

The range goes on sale later this year, with prices ranging from the mid-£50,000s to the mid-£60,000s. RRS HST Supercharged/ Stornoway Grey/Ivory/Piano Black/Sun Roof/Trackstar

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