muddywheels wrote:

Dealer offering to repair, give 2 years extended LR Approved Warranty and no charge for the service last week that brought me to this point

I'd take that to be honest Muddy , make sure the warranty is fully transferrable to a new owner, so you can use it to add value when you come to sell it or trade in against your FF  ON THE WAY: BMW F21 M140i
MERCEDES GL350 - Metallic Navy Blue w/Grey interior

GOING: BMW F31 335D MSport+ xDrive Touring
GONE: Land Rover Discovery 4 HSE - Stornaway Grey w/Black Interior (wish we'd kept it )
GONE: BMW F10 520D MSport - Carbon Black
GONE:MY12 RRS SDV6 HSE Sumatra/Ivory/Grand Black Privacy glass

All in all not a too bad an outcome muddy, as Beano says it will add value to your motor if you sell privately which is the way i would go seeing the price that they insulted you with

I had always planned to own this RRS for 5 years - the extended warranty makes it easier to swallow after what happened last week

As you can see from my sig I have been changing frequently but this time I thought spend a bit more, get a better car, keep it longer and it would work out same money - how wrong can you be  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

I think you're 'worrying' about it to much Muddy

You still have a great RRS (yes I know you've had some problems), and if you forget the 'accident' at the agrage you now have an RRS with and additional 2 year warranty, plus it didn't cost you to get it serviced (£500 ) and a garage that will have to maintain it or anything that goes wrong with the suspension, steering etc due the the possible damage they caused - that's a great stick to have in your back pocket to beat them with.

I think the issue is you now would like to get and FFRR (and who could blame you), but if you look at the 'then' and 'now' position I'd say you're up on the deal.
Just trying to maybe make you see it from another angle  ON THE WAY: BMW F21 M140i
MERCEDES GL350 - Metallic Navy Blue w/Grey interior

GOING: BMW F31 335D MSport+ xDrive Touring
GONE: Land Rover Discovery 4 HSE - Stornaway Grey w/Black Interior (wish we'd kept it )
GONE: BMW F10 520D MSport - Carbon Black
GONE:MY12 RRS SDV6 HSE Sumatra/Ivory/Grand Black Privacy glass

Sounds like a good deal.

In addition you could ask them for a written confirmation that they will not hold the damage against you should you one day trade in in your car with them '08 RRS TDV8
I converted my diesel RRS to run on an environmentally friendly mixture of caribou fat and baby seals oil

Would of thought the new model FFRR will reduce the prices of old model by even more, so by waiting a year or so they will be relativley a lot cheaper if you go with old model and the Sport has probably been the best performing on depreciation from Landrover since its launch.

Westminister FFRR in Showroom today £69500 looked and smelt real good, but to think new entry level price going up to a rumoured £100,000
 Now driving a rather smart looking Van

According to autocar £65k entry price

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars...r-pictured

Planning to keep RRS and wait for 6 month to 1 year old revised model  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

My TDV8 FFRR dream may be at an end - in fact after the RRS fiasco and now this I may say you JLR

First of all bear in mind Similar RRS on autotrader between £36-40K & Mini cost nearly £18k 4 months ago but are now advertised £13.5 to £15K

These are Franchised LR Dealers

First dealer - 2011 TDV8 VOGUE advertised at £47335 but wants £48281 OTR for cash no px
Offered £30k for my 59 plate RRS with 22k miles/2 year 5 month LR warranty + £12k for my 12 plate mini with 2.7k miles/2 year 8 months mini warranty - £6000 to change


Second dealer - 2011 Vogue SE advertised £51844 will take £51k + road tax cash no px
Offered £28k for RRS but when I laughed said he looked up wrong car and it should have been £31k - not interested in a mini - I said goodbye

 Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Get them to add servicing to the warranty period! Now - MY11 RRS Autobiography TDV6, Orkney gray, tints, steps, daylight running lamps and allllll the toys!!!
Ex- RRS HSE TDV6 07 Java Black, bi xenon, corner lights, side steps, tints, cool box, smoke side repeats, chrome "sport" boot sill
Ex - Audi A4 Cab 3.0TDi Quattro
Ex - Freelander2 SE TD4
Ex - CRV Auto

Sounds like it's not going to plan which is a shame...

However, can I ask why you are now so out of favour with your RRS? I understand what has transpired (which was bad) but surely after the car has been put right (which the LR dealer have a duty to do) it will be as good as when you dropped it off.

Is it now simply a case of getting bored of the RRS and wanting a FFRR? Or do you have bad feelings towards your RRS now after what's happened? My last car (Audi V8 ) got damaged through no fault of my own and when it first happened I was gutted, then after a week or so I wanted to get rid, it felt spoiled in some way. However, after it was fixed and looked better than before I loved it again...... until I chopped it in for the RRS that is

Nothing wrong with getting bored and changing your car frequently (I've had over 60 in 16 years of driving) but you have to understand you will lose money (which I'm sure you know) hand over fist if you change so often.

Me personally, I wouldn't have an FFRR over my RRS. I looked closely at buying one instead of my RRS and I couldn't do it, too big and plain for me.

Personal choice though so each to their own

After 6 superb LR's before in 2010 I tested a 3.6 TDV6 Vogue and the RRS - I hated the Vogue

The RRS was the most expensive car I ever bought and took me years to finally afford/pluck up the courage to buy

Since the day I got it I have had poor customer service, missing wiring loom, summer tyres on a 4x4, uneven tyre wear, electrical faults, paint defects and I have had enough even though it is probably all sorted now - I hate it

The 4.4 Vogue is miles superior to the RRS in everything except cornering but I have found that I am so relaxed in the vogue I enjoy the drive and don't feel like throwing it around the bends but can overtake if I want to

LR Dealers trying to s w me will be the last straw though and love it or not I will not buy another JLR at this rate  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

OK so to me it sounds like you've had a lemon of a car. They unfortunately come around as we all know only too well.

I was very dubious about coming from Audi, VW and BMW's to a LR based on build quality and reputation. My last Audi was bulletproof and I gave it a very hard life, yet despite 90k miles it was still as well put together as the day I got it.

With regards to your RRS, think back to why you originally hated the Vogue? What has changed since, is it just because of this 1 lemon car and the unfortunate circumstances? Did you get all of your previous LR's from the same dealer as this one?

I know you say you're more relaxed in the Vogue that you don't want to throw it about, but give it time and you will miss the chassis of the RRS. I was more relaxed with mine when I first got it and compared to the Audi it's like a boat but now I do chuck the RRS about more than I thought I would.

It's not just LR dealers trying to screw you, all dealers do, with the exception of some genuinely good and honest ones out there. I've bought cars from the same dealers 3 times in the row until they annoyed me then I'd move on to another dealer or brand.

Either way, I hope you get it sorted but don't rush into anything.

I've been there myself far too many times.... like the time I chopped in a 328i Sport against a race spec STi, what a mistake that was. Or the time I sold my M3 for a Skyline.... which lasted 2 weeks before I ditched it!!! (Japanese rubbish)

sjuggins - Originally hated the vogue 3.6 as it was underpowered but the newer 4.4 is incredible

I had planned to keep RRS for 5 years but with issues and inept dealer I am looking to move on/maybe change brand now

I always shop around for best deal so don't usually use same dealer twice in a row

Buying mine for £30k and selling it for £37k when I buy a vogue for £51K they probably paid £41k for is s g me  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

hi there...I had planned to keep RRS for 5 years but with issues and inept dealer I am looking to move on/maybe change brand now .
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Well looks as though I may not have to take the RRS back

Looking at a 2011 (60) 4.4 TDV8 Vogue for £44.5k with 2 years LR Approved Warranty tagged on to oem

Downside is £32K p/x for my RRS

Think I may have to bite the bullet to have a fresh start though :oops Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!