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Tim in Scotland

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2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

TDv8 Spec in FFRR

Land Rover Owner International has the 1st road test of the TDv8 FFRR in the June edition.
The first comment that I noticed...................."with this power and torque it blows the RR S/C into the weeds" - what hope an RRS S/C then? 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Wed May 24 2006 1:14pm

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I can see the fact it'll pull a house over a lot easier than the SC - but is it actually quicker/faster? The engine's not as powerful at the end of the day and it's not torque that gets you away from the lights quickly...

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Wed May 24 2006 1:18pm

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Wed May 24 2006 1:22pm

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And everyone ignored you.

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Wed May 24 2006 1:25pm

Tim in Scotland

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OK reading on a bit.....................
Top Speed is limited in the FFRR TDv8 to 124mph
Ouput is 272bhp on 472lb-ft torque (50 more than the S/C FFRR)
0-60 is 8secs
It has 3630cc capacity, 32 valves, twin turbos, 90 degree V (TDv6 is 60 degrees so it must be a totally new engine not a delevopement of TDv6!) Twin camshafts and is rated as one of the worlds quiestest and smoothest diesels.

Economy in the FFRR is 25.1 mpg and it has Terrain Response, and LROI reckon it will be the biggest selling RR by far....................

Form an orderly queue behind me for the RRS version please. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Wed May 24 2006 1:26pm

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Sounds excellent, not bad MPG either very

Wed May 24 2006 1:29pm

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Wed May 24 2006 1:29pm

PaulB

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shmoogle wrote:
I can see the fact it'll pull a house over a lot easier than the SC - but is it actually quicker/faster? The engine's not as powerful at the end of the day and it's not torque that gets you away from the lights quickly...

Actually, it is

In reality, BHP doesn't really exist, it is simply a multiplication of torque x rpm. You would typically be using the lower rev range when pulling away, therefore the rpm multiplier wouldn't produce the high BHP figures, but you could still have high torque. If you look at a BHP & torque curves for the same engine, you wil see that while ever there is torque you will get increasing power as the revs rise. Once torque starts to drop off, the power it will follow shortly after.
A diesel will invariably produce lower BHP figures than a "comparable" petrol, simply because it produces the torque at lower revs and therefore, a lower multiplication factor.

Paul

Wed May 24 2006 1:30pm

JayMann

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shmoogle wrote:
And everyone ignored you.

Like always

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Wed May 24 2006 1:30pm

shmoogle

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The figures look good. Given the spec, LR will need to position it well to not kill SC sales....

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Wed May 24 2006 1:32pm

shmoogle

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PaulB wrote:
shmoogle wrote:
I can see the fact it'll pull a house over a lot easier than the SC - but is it actually quicker/faster? The engine's not as powerful at the end of the day and it's not torque that gets you away from the lights quickly...

Actually, it is In reality, BHP doesn't really exist, it is simply a multiplication of torque x rpm. You would typically be using the lower rev range when pulling away, therefore the rpm multiplier wouldn't produce the high BHP figures, but you could still have high torque. If you look at a BHP & torque curves for the same engine, you wil see that while ever there is torque you will get increasing power as the revs rise. Once torque starts to drop off, the power it will follow shortly after.
A diesel will invariably produce lower BHP figures than a "comparable" petrol, simply because it produces the torque at lower revs and therefore, a lower multiplication factor.

Paul

Well, that's me told... Thanks for the explanation, Paul

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Wed May 24 2006 1:33pm

Luke

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So in the real world it will do 18 mpg, cost as much as a V8 petrol and go as well as a chipped V6.

Save your money. !st Edition RRS S/C, Black on Black.

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Wed May 24 2006 1:33pm

Tim in Scotland

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One thing it doesn't say is how low down it reaches the maximum torque - it will probably pretty low like it is in all LR diesels to help the offroad-ablity. There is also no mention of Dynamic pack being fitted to the FFRR.
The article says that the same engine will be going into the Jaguar XJ........... less weight, lower,sleeker................... that will be some car! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Wed May 24 2006 1:33pm

shmoogle

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Given the success that BMW have had in putting their 3.0d twin-turbo unit into a number of their cars, I'd say it's open season for the performance diesel to be appearing in new models across the industry. Now if only the fuel was the same price as petrol (or LPG would be better!)

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Wed May 24 2006 1:38pm

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