Ed Miliband says in his new year message that the Labour Party must show there is an alternative to rising unemployment and falling living standards............

.....not one to be too harsh or cynical, surely that means don't vote Labour unless your a benefit cheat, asylum seeker or goldsmith?



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have you seen the Labour Party yearly photo?

worth a read

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodge...is-memory/

It could be worse, the outlook and posterity of millions, especially the younger generation (and less fortunate) could be being destroyed for the next 20 years by an unelected group of up themselves tiffs who are in it only for themselves but that can spin a good story...oh wait sorry, that's whats happening Mike

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Kaine wrote:

worth a read

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodge...is-memory/

Until they ditch the rabble that put us in this position (and that means all of them) Labour will once again spend another eternity in the political wilderness.......as much as its hurting, I personally think the current lot are doing a pretty good job, all considering.....they don't have any options, the coffers are empty, the gold has been squandered etc etc. L322 Big Daddy SUPERCHARGED 5.0 Autobiography - Here & Now!

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I hate that Miliband, he's got the sort of face you want to slap.

And what is all this debt relief bullshit in the news today. Thats just Giving the great unwashed free reign to build up a load of debt and then protecting them from debt collectors for a 12 month before their debts get written off. And who pays for that, oh that will be me and you yet again! 2017 Range Rover Sport Autobiography

The Kergan wrote:

I hate that Miliband, he's got the sort of face you want to slap.

And what is all this debt relief bullshit in the news today. Thats just Giving the great unwashed free reign to build up a load of debt and then protecting them from debt collectors for a 12 month before their debts get written off. And who pays for that, oh that will be me and you yet again!

Yes that gets me too, there is a system up here that you pay £200/month for three years then all your debt is written off, they can't touch any savings you have in an account!! I have heard of someone doing this with £30k of debt, so they will only pay £7k and the tax payer picks up the rest, he won't be able to get credit again, but he's not bothered!! Makes me mad! MY10 TDV6 SE (debadged ), Santorini Black, Flappy paddles, Privacy Glass, 20" Stormers, Mudflaps!

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Debt relief - WTF? So you borrow money and knowingly cannot pay it back then just say "sorry guys" and hey presto, huge debts gone. In my view, that's plain and simple fraud, end of.

These people have no scruples, no credibility and should be blacklisted for 25 years minimum! What sort of a deterrent is 6 years on your credit file, beggars belief, sure there are genuine cases of hardship from circumstance, but this will be used as a vehicle for the scumbag 42" Plasma brigade to borrow and go bust! Ridiculous.

Simplistic math dictates, if 5 scummers in a family over the age of 18 do this then based on the figures stated and with the probability that we are paying for them to survive already through handouts, they can go from birth to death without lifting a finger and live in relative "stig-like" comfort, which in their case is luxury as they know no different.

This HAS to be a Labour carry-over policy / law designed for their majority electorate! L322 Big Daddy SUPERCHARGED 5.0 Autobiography - Here & Now!

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will_wonka wrote:

Debt relief - WTF? So you borrow money and knowingly cannot pay it back then just say "sorry guys" and hey presto, huge debts gone. In my view, that's plain and simple fraud, end of.

These people have no scruples, no credibility and should be blacklisted for 25 years minimum! What sort of a deterrent is 6 years on your credit file, beggars belief, sure there are genuine cases of hardship from circumstance, but this will be used as a vehicle for the scumbag 42" Plasma brigade to borrow and go bust! Ridiculous.

Simplistic math dictates, if 5 scummers in a family over the age of 18 do this then based on the figures stated and with the probability that we are paying for them to survive already through handouts, they can go from birth to death without lifting a finger and live in relative "stig-like" comfort, which in their case is luxury as they know no different.

This HAS to be a Labour carry-over policy / law designed for their majority electorate!

You are absolutely right, I do feel sorry for the example on the news where two people living within their means were made unemployed in the same week, all of a sudden they start racking up debt because they do not get enough dole money to pay for probably a car, mortgage, two or three household items on tic, but then again in the good old days you saved for stuff and lived in a council house for a few years, now everyone wants on the property ladder in a nice area!

The chap I know , as you rightly point out is still spending on his credit card as he know he won't pay it back, it IS fraud!!
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codfather wrote:

Yes that gets me too, there is a system up here that you pay £200/month for three years then all your debt is written off, they can't touch any savings you have in an account!! I have heard of someone doing this with £30k of debt, so they will only pay £7k and the tax payer picks up the rest, he won't be able to get credit again, but he's not bothered!! Makes me mad!

will_wonka wrote:

Debt relief - WTF? So you borrow money and knowingly cannot pay it back then just say "sorry guys" and hey presto, huge debts gone. In my view, that's plain and simple fraud, end of.

Zilch wrote:

will_wonka wrote:

Debt relief - WTF? So you borrow money and knowingly cannot pay it back then just say "sorry guys" and hey presto, huge debts gone. In my view, that's plain and simple fraud, end of.

I assume you apply this analogy to the bailed out big banks as well ?

The Kergan wrote:

And that Tosser sir Fred Goodwin ............he should whiped naked through the streets of Canary wharf. ...

If he is an old etonian or harrovian surely he will see that as a perk not a punishment
Why give him two bonus's at the tax payers expense  Another Pommie Bar Steward down under

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