Well my SC has been in the dealers since Friday with a brake pedal switch failure, so I have had the opportunity to drive a D3 on loan and then a new FFRR V8D.

My opinion

D3 HSE lovely looking car, loads of room I could live in it, took it to Wembley to watch the Crusty Demons (go and see them fantastic show) return great MPG, unfortunately it couldn't accelerate fast enough to pull the skin off a rice pudding, once it was up and running a nice car.

FFRR V8D Fantastic car brought the real RR feel all back, great MPG, accelerated 100% better than the D3, a bit old hat now though. but still a great car.

I had been looking to swap for a D3, then to the FFRR V8D but returning to the dealer this evening and getting back into my SC my world changed what a great car handles, drives, noise, looks and poor MPG in all the best package. would not sell her for any of the above but I would for a G55.

Misery - with regards to the D3 I agree with you. Even though the RRS is based on a D3 it is a far superior drive. As an owner of both Mrs VA and I always want the RRS over the D3. Mrs VA is no driving expert but knows what she likes and she notices the better driving experience with the RRS. 2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
2009 Alaska TDV8 - Gone and much missed.



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So RRS TDV8 is the way to go  TDV6 - gone
TDV8 - gone
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True, Misery... it's when you have a go in all three like that that you see why the different cars exist.

RRS = sporty drive
FFRR = top end spec
D3 = good practicality for all that tarmac



Now, if only they'd trim the RRS up to the FFRR levels... 

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Now, if only they'd trim the RRS up to the FFRR levels...

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Josh wrote:

So RRS TDV8 is the way to go

Josh G55 is the only way to go but my second choice would be the RRS TDV8 over the FF any day.

Angel how could you not love it!!!!

shmoogle your righ to the FF interior is a great place to be but as i have been there and done it if you know what I mean I will have to wait and see what's next. If I can't borrow enough money for a G55 , I will wiat and see if LR bring out something to compete with the new BMW X6 as I really like the look of that. But don't tell anyone I said I like BMW

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But don't tell anyone I said I like BMW

That's OK, it's not an illness!!!  

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No it's not !

Have test driven a X5 3.0sd with all the goodies this morning and have to admit that I was mightily impressed. The perfect car from whatever side you look at it, unless one really needs serious offroad capability, but who really does (sorry VA, you're the exception)! Never liked to old model's looks but the new shape is really growing on me!

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It is a good car, the new X5 (as was the old one really) but as with most BMWs, I still think the RRS is better value given the toys etc (at least in the UK it is). 

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It is a good car, the new X5 (as was the old one really) but as with most BMWs, I still think the RRS is better value given the toys etc (at least in the UK it is).

Yes Shmoogle, as far as I am concerned you could be right!


Value wise not over here, tough. Specced similarly price is about the same as a fully loaded TDV8 but the beemer will blow the RRS away no matter if it's on the Autobahn or up a twisty mountain pass, and fuel economy is much better. The car I drove had the so-called comfort seats and I have never ever sat in a more comfortable car seat, and, and, and, and...... SOMETIMES YOU'RE THE BUG AND SOMETIMES YOU'RE THE WINDSHIELD

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G55 rules!

I too like the new X5, there are a couple in Paphos and it has really grown on me too.

However, unlike Misery I think a FFRR may well be the way we go next, when RRS reaches its third B'day.

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Once again ST doesn't know what he is talking about except for the G55

Yes I did say I liked the BMW but the X6. I to have driven the X5 sd and a very good car Roland, before I would buy one of them I would need to be an estate agent with a huge knot in my tie and be a right