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jamesgarbett



Member Since: 12 Jan 2021
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Auto engine stop/start?

Just noticed that my 2014 L494 has this (when I say noticed I mean noticed the button near the gearstick)

Only thing is it's never actually stopped the engine when I brake to a halt

Is there a menu where this may have been disabled?

Or is there more likely a fault which is stopping it from working (low battery charge for example)?

Post #610092 Tue Feb 16 2021 3:31pm
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Ash3



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Hi James,

aux battery powers stop start..so if low ..stop/start wont work.

Also if DPF is in regen mode then stop start wont work and if fuel level is below a certain amount, it wont work. Can't remember the fuel level though.

The engine will also restart if one of the following occurs:

Here is a list of conditions

Intelligent stop/start is deactivated.

An automatic transmission shift paddle is used to select a gear.

Demand from the Climate control system increases.

The vehicle's battery charge becomes low.

Brake vacuum has been reduced, for example, using the brake pedal repeatedly with the engine off.

The accelerator pedal is pressed (non-Hybrid vehicles only).

Reverse (R) gear is selected (non-Hybrid vehicles only).

The vehicle's speed exceeds approximately 1 km/h (0.5 mph) (non-Hybrid vehicles only).

The following conditions will prevent an automatic engine stop:

An automatic transmission shift paddle has been used to select a gear.

The external temperature is less than approximately 0°C.

The external temperature is more than approximately 40°C.

The engine has not reached its operating temperature.

The driver's seat belt is not fastened.

Demand from the Climate control system requires the engine to be running, for example, when in Defrost mode.

The vehicle's battery charge is low.

Intelligent stop/start is deactivated.

The bonnet is opened.

Post #610096 Tue Feb 16 2021 3:54pm
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pjbracer1



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What the last post says, but will almost definitely be battery related

I've edited this post as it was TLDR and only offering some solutions on how to solve the issue. (it was a slow day for me Server updates!) Hence the comments that follow this!

JimBG has explained how the ASS operates further down this post Thumbs Up

Good luck chap If a jobs worth doing, get a someone who knows what they are doing to do it!

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Post #610150 Wed Feb 17 2021 5:32pm
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Canary



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I take it you had a slack work day pjbracer Rolling with laughter Thumbs Up MY18 SCV8 Satin flux silver
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Post #610152 Wed Feb 17 2021 6:17pm
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Ash3



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Rolling with laughter

That is a very long and detailed response.

I just copied and pasted Very Happy

Post #610153 Wed Feb 17 2021 6:39pm
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pjbracer1



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Canary wrote:
I take it you had a slack work day pjbracer Rolling with laughter Thumbs Up
Ha yeah I definitely did thats what IT does to me! Big Cry If a jobs worth doing, get a someone who knows what they are doing to do it!

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Post #610155 Wed Feb 17 2021 7:00pm
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jimbg



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Very long replies!

It helps to understand the basics of why there is an aux battery in the first place, and it is NOT directly for Stop/Start as such.

With the introduction of Stop?start it became necessary to protect all the various electronics in the car.
The electronic are very susceptible to power fluctuations such as when there is a heavy load, i.e. starting.

So the electronics needed the aux battery to avoid that dip.

So if EITHER battery is low the start/stop is disabled to maintain that stable supply for the electronics. 2023 P440e SE Dynamic on order -cancelled

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Post #610166 Wed Feb 17 2021 11:30pm
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Johnrrs



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My stop start stopped working 2 week after getting the car. Once I started putting car on ctek charger it started working again. Only works for a week or so due to the mileage I do.

Post #610167 Wed Feb 17 2021 11:38pm
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gtr_skyline



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Ditto per JOhnRRS - once CTEK conditioned (via terminal in the engine bay), bloody stoop start working all the time... MY16, 3.0D HSE Dynamic, Barola Black, TV, Rear Entertainment, Opening Pan Roof, Meridian

Post #610231 Fri Feb 19 2021 3:52pm
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scarey



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you do know that you can switch off the stop/start?

Post #610233 Fri Feb 19 2021 4:27pm
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Laurie100uk



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Whats the cheapest I can get one of these ctek conditioners for? Debating whether to shell out on one of them or just buy a new battery

Post #610246 Fri Feb 19 2021 8:43pm
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Johnrrs



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I think mine was £80

Post #610247 Fri Feb 19 2021 8:58pm
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pjbracer1



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Just got one on Amazon for £69 couldnt find one cheaper and the ones that were had shipping so no brainer really.

Tried in on my old battery on recon mode so will keep it topped up as a reserve If a jobs worth doing, get a someone who knows what they are doing to do it!

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Post #610249 Fri Feb 19 2021 9:07pm
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Lindab



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Lidl £15 conditioners get a good press. I have Ctek MXS 5, also Ctek Stop/Start model & a Lidl effort. All good but if pressed I would go for MXS 5 as the booklet explains more what the lights do than the others, but saying that, £15 as opposed to £60 +
no brainer. My chargers can be on for 6 months at a time. Cars always start first time & stop/start works fine

Post #610278 Sat Feb 20 2021 11:55am
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georgien



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RRS MY17 and on have no auxiliary battery.
Is there a way to cancel the engine stop-start function as not to have to push on that button every time you get on board of the car ?
Thanks Nik
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