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tony waterman



Member Since: 23 Jun 2019
Location: benwick march cambs
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crankshaft diy removal

Hi All
i have a 2011 rrs 3l tdv6 and i have been told the crankshaft has seized, i have also been told that it is not possible to do it yourself as the camshaft has to be heated up to get it out, i was hoping to be able to get underneath and drop it out from there etc. so basically is it a diy job or not. thanks
tony


Last edited by tony waterman on Sun Jun 23 2019 4:21pm. Edited 1 time in total

Post #582887 Sun Jun 23 2019 12:14pm
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tony waterman



Member Since: 23 Jun 2019
Location: benwick march cambs
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sorry made a mistake i am referring to the crankshaft not the camshaft

Post #582898 Sun Jun 23 2019 4:20pm
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Andy K



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England 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Rimini Red

well you need to disconnect it from the gearbox.
and disconnect it the other end (remove oil pump?)

Undo many bolts holding it in.

The trouble is the crank breaking usually scraps the engine block so little point

Post #582901 Sun Jun 23 2019 5:15pm
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tony waterman



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Location: benwick march cambs
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excuse my ignorance but if it is just the crankshaft that has gone and there is no other sign of damage how does it scrap the engine.

Post #582908 Sun Jun 23 2019 6:46pm
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Andy K



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I think you would be lucky if that was the case

Post #582912 Sun Jun 23 2019 8:18pm
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Disco_Mikey



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tony waterman wrote:
excuse my ignorance but if it is just the crankshaft that has gone and there is no other sign of damage how does it scrap the engine.


It warps the block...

Post #582913 Sun Jun 23 2019 8:39pm
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tony waterman



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ok thank for the replies looks like its a replacement engine then.

Post #582936 Mon Jun 24 2019 10:01am
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Brit Plumber



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There’s some photos on here or Disco 4 site from a independent showing a section of engine block sheared off inside after a crank shaft fail. 2012 5.0 SC AB
Mods:
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2016 Discovery 4 Mirrors AKA RRS2
2014 L405 Surround Camera retro fit (WIP)
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Post #582995 Tue Jun 25 2019 10:06am
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tony waterman



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thanks i will have a look, tbh i was hoping it was just a case of the shells slipping as this is a known fault, at some stage i will get underneath and take the sump off and have a look and you never know i might be lucky.

Post #582998 Tue Jun 25 2019 10:37am
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Brit Plumber



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England 2012 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Autobiography Fuji White

Always worth a look mate, I would take it apart out of interest alone. 2012 5.0 SC AB
Mods:
TPMS
Genuine LR DRLs
Remote Boot close from key fob
2016 Discovery 4 Mirrors AKA RRS2
2014 L405 Surround Camera retro fit (WIP)
2013 RRS Dual View Screen fit (Complete)
2016 LR4 RSE
2014 LR4 Homelink
2016 FFRR Electrochromatic Wing Mirror Glass

70 plate Focus ST (Current)
1942 VEP Ford GPW Jeep (Willys) (Current)
1943 Whites M16 Halftrack (Current)
16 plate Eurofighter Typhoon, 2 x Eurojet engines with 20,000lbs thrust each. 1380mph

Post #583003 Tue Jun 25 2019 11:52am
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Andy K



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They have an upper and lower sump.

To remove the upper sump you need to remove the fan, fan cowling, aux belt tensioner. (to slide foward and up)
Pull dip stick tube out (where fitted), undo some steering pipes...


PM this guy. I'm sure he will give you some prices/info.

He had his 3.0 engine reconned.

https://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/member-knwatkins.html

Post #583006 Tue Jun 25 2019 12:06pm
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knwatkins



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

As Mike says, the blocks can warp on these engines when the cranks snap. There have been numerous reports of snapped cranks being replaced along with new bearings then shortly after - bang, it goes again.

Make sure to get all injectors tested because this could be the root cause. Out of spec injector = engine imbalance = spun bearing = snapped crank Kev

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MY2010 L320 RRS HSE 3.0 TDV6 in Stornoway Grey

Post #583008 Tue Jun 25 2019 12:43pm
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Andy K



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you would recommend oval auto's wouldn't you ?

Post #583018 Tue Jun 25 2019 5:13pm
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knwatkins



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Yes, I used Oval Autos and they were great. The engine is very smooth running. Kev

MY2014 L405 RR Vogue SE 4.4 SDV8 in Corris Grey
MY2010 L320 RRS HSE 3.0 TDV6 in Stornoway Grey

Post #583019 Tue Jun 25 2019 5:17pm
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tony waterman



Member Since: 23 Jun 2019
Location: benwick march cambs
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Andy K wrote:
They have an upper and lower sump.

To remove the upper sump you need to remove the fan, fan cowling, aux belt tensioner. (to slide foward and up)
Pull dip stick tube out (where fitted), undo some steering pipes...


PM this guy. I'm sure he will give you some prices/info.

He had his 3.0 engine reconned.

https://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/member-knwatkins.html

i think its a trip to halfords for a manual first, i have no choice but to try and do this myself, i was 2 days away from px this car for a 2016 hse when this happened so i still went ahead with the purchase and i only had it 2 weeks when it was stolen, it was recovered but was a write off due to a high speed police chase and i got left 12k out of pocket because of no gap insurance which i had never heard of so at the moment i am still paying for a car i dont have and now my only option is to try and get this one back on the road for as little money as possible.

Post #583033 Tue Jun 25 2019 10:18pm
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