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RUSK



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Wedge Method...!?

Firstly, apologies again for YET ANOTHER mindless "help me" thread where I publicly demonstrate my ignorance.

(I've started so many of these, I just decided to go donate to this (great) site, as I feel like I'm devouring the bandwidth)

I have sent my faulty electronic parking brake actuator off to be reconditioned, but I just had a message saying that when it returns all shiny and new, I need to make sure the garage use the WEDGE ADJUSTMENT METHOD and also have new shoes and liners fitted... and that I need to tell the garage not to even turn it on until this is done.

I'm looking here and not sure what "shoes and liners" actually means in terms of the parts to order... https://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/parking-brake-shoes-12874-c.asp

And what the hell is a wedge adjustment method!? I want to make sure I can explain this to the mechanics for refitting!

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gogsy1956



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I can imagine them suggesting new brake shoes,, but liners,, unless they mean discs as they would have to be in good condition also or the shoes wouldn't last,, or work too good. Not too many other part to pick from really, the system consists of brake module, cables, discs, shoes and adjusters. As to this not turning it on until everything is fitted,, sounds logical, if you operate the system without discs fitted there would be nothing to limit the travel of module.
This wedge method that is mentioned,, I thought there was only one way to adjust the shoes,, adjust the shoes up until tight, then back off the adjuster so many click ( 6 maybe? ) and that's it.
Do a search for bodsy's brake Bible on here, it shows exactly how to carry this out,, it's in the "how to" section. 2010 RRS, TDV8
bali Blue / colour coded
side steps / flappy paddles
black perforated leather
22" overfinch
heated everything, TV,fridge ...... now with gold calipers and mud flaps !( black mud flaps that is) !!
Many years ago,,,,, 1955 series 1 landie , sometimes wish I had kept it

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Andy K



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Shoes Part number ending 46

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RUSK



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gogsy1956 wrote:
Do a search for bodsy's brake Bible on here, it shows exactly how to carry this out,, it's in the "how to" section.


Thank you, I'm sure I've seen that - I will try and find it, hopefully ther wedge bit is in there and I can print it out for the mechanic.

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RUSK



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Andy K wrote:
Shoes Part number ending 46


That's where I'd gotten to... and "liners" appear not to be mentioned...?

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Andy K



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You don’t need liners

I don’t think the bibble mentions wedges. I think it just means adjust it correctly at the wheels

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gogsy1956



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http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic25409.h...nge+bushes

Just been reading this and it mentions adjusting the brake shoe wedge? 2010 RRS, TDV8
bali Blue / colour coded
side steps / flappy paddles
black perforated leather
22" overfinch
heated everything, TV,fridge ...... now with gold calipers and mud flaps !( black mud flaps that is) !!
Many years ago,,,,, 1955 series 1 landie , sometimes wish I had kept it

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gogsy1956



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I am have missed something as I have only on emmerdale Rolling with laughter 2010 RRS, TDV8
bali Blue / colour coded
side steps / flappy paddles
black perforated leather
22" overfinch
heated everything, TV,fridge ...... now with gold calipers and mud flaps !( black mud flaps that is) !!
Many years ago,,,,, 1955 series 1 landie , sometimes wish I had kept it

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gogsy1956



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That translates into watching emmerdale! 2010 RRS, TDV8
bali Blue / colour coded
side steps / flappy paddles
black perforated leather
22" overfinch
heated everything, TV,fridge ...... now with gold calipers and mud flaps !( black mud flaps that is) !!
Many years ago,,,,, 1955 series 1 landie , sometimes wish I had kept it

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Col



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Re: Wedge Method...!?

RUSK wrote:


I'm looking here and not sure what "shoes and liners" actually means in terms of the parts to order... https://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/parking-brake-shoes-12874-c.asp

And what the hell is a wedge adjustment method!? I want to make sure I can explain this to the mechanics for refitting!


Could they actualy mean shoes and linings, as L/R just refer to the complete item as Kit - Brake Lining, I think the shoe kit ends 47 not 46 that is the pawl actuator rod, also unless they have changed it if you buy a genuine L/R kit it only does one wheel, so you need two kits. I also think they may mean wedge adjuster not wedge adjustment.

7. CAUTION: The wedge adjuster must be
correctly seated to make sure the park brake cable
is correctly adjusted. Failure to follow this
instruction may result in damage to the park brake
system.
Loosen the wedge adjuster Allen screw half a turn.
Tap the brake disc lightly with a soft faced
mallet, around the park brake shoe location
within the brake disc.
Tighten the wedge adjuster Allen screw to 6
Nm (5 lb.ft).

Cheers
Col

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RUSK



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I have a plan forming.


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RUSK



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Re: Wedge Method...!?

Col wrote:

Could they actualy mean shoes and linings, as L/R just refer to the complete item as Kit - Brake Lining, I think the shoe kit ends 47 not 46 that is the pawl actuator rod, also unless they have changed it if you buy a genuine L/R kit it only does one wheel, so you need two kits.


This makes sense - although I now can't get the site to load to identify the "kit" - do you have a direct link as opposed to the part number? Might have to wait and ring Tuesday otherwise.


Col wrote:

I also think they may mean wedge adjuster not wedge adjustment.

7. CAUTION: The wedge adjuster must be
correctly seated to make sure the park brake cable
is correctly adjusted. Failure to follow this
instruction may result in damage to the park brake
system.
Loosen the wedge adjuster Allen screw half a turn.
Tap the brake disc lightly with a soft faced
mallet, around the park brake shoe location
within the brake disc.
Tighten the wedge adjuster Allen screw to 6
Nm (5 lb.ft).


This makes sense too... thank you!

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Col



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Same link as above in a previous reply and works for me, the part number of the kit is LR031947 because I have a pair of these kits in my garage and that is the number on the box. If you google the number I'm sure there are some cheap pattern parts out there.

https://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/parking-brake-shoes-12874-c.asp

Cheers
Col

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