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Had a chat with my dealer today about depreciation. His estimate is that the following drop has been experienced over the last 12 months.

TDv6 HSE from £44k to £37k = £7k drop or 16%

S/Charged from £58k to £40k = £18k drop or 31%

4.4 HSE from £50k to £35k = £15k drop or 31%

Having said that he said the 4.4 price was a guestimate and could potentially be a lot lower / worse as there are so few in circulation, demand was low and some were bought a sizeable discounts first time around.

He estimated that a TDv8 would retain 85% of its market value for the next 12 months and then lose another 20% pa after that.

You have got to be a real petrol head to want to put up with those rates of depreciation ...... RRS TDv8 HSE Rimini
Disco 4 TDv6 HSE Ipanema
Defender 90, 200tdi CSW

Smarticus wrote:

Had a chat with my dealer today about depreciation. His estimate is that the following drop has been experienced over the last 12 months.

TDv6 HSE from £44k to £37k = £7k drop or 16%

S/Charged from £58k to £40k = £18k drop or 31%

4.4 HSE from £50k to £35k = £15k drop or 31%

Having said that he said the 4.4 price was a guestimate and could potentially be a lot lower / worse as there are so few in circulation, demand was low and some were bought a sizeable discounts first time around.

He estimated that a TDv8 would retain 85% of its market value for the next 12 months and then lose another 20% pa after that.

You have got to be a real petrol head to want to put up with those rates of depreciation ......

Smarticus wrote:

Had a chat with my dealer today about depreciation. His estimate is that the following drop has been experienced over the last 12 months.

TDv6 HSE from £44k to £37k = £7k drop or 16%

S/Charged from £58k to £40k = £18k drop or 31%

4.4 HSE from £50k to £35k = £15k drop or 31%

Having said that he said the 4.4 price was a guestimate and could potentially be a lot lower / worse as there are so few in circulation, demand was low and some were bought a sizeable discounts first time around.

He estimated that a TDv8 would retain 85% of its market value for the next 12 months and then lose another 20% pa after that.

You have got to be a real petrol head to want to put up with those rates of depreciation ......

yeah i have to agree with THE JAYMANN - i am mad now that i bought an TDV6 i should have gone for the SC !  
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Well i had no choice, as i wanted the G4, all were based on the 4.4 HSE,

300 mile motoryway trip, returned very near 19mpg @ 75-80 mph, do carry a bit moreb extra weight on the options,!!, and the rack does not help !! Running round is 15 ish, I am happy performance wise, pull well, & has the refinement, no diesel can give yoy !! (coat on and out the door )

If you are doing 20k plus per year, i would look at the TDV6, with a ecu upgrade ! But we are only here once, hang it go SC  997 TT, RR TDV8 Vog SE 90 V8 Hybrid
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Smarticus wrote:

Had a chat with my dealer today about depreciation. His estimate is that the following drop has been experienced over the last 12 months.

TDv6 HSE from £44k to £37k = £7k drop or 16%

S/Charged from £58k to £40k = £18k drop or 31%

4.4 HSE from £50k to £35k = £15k drop or 31%

Having said that he said the 4.4 price was a guestimate and could potentially be a lot lower / worse as there are so few in circulation, demand was low and some were bought a sizeable discounts first time around.

Hi Smarticus
Presume your dealer was working on a new Jan 2006 vehicle, the valve today with so call average miles ??

"Book" valves for info are (dec book working on 12k and 06 55 Reg HSE spec)

TDv6 HSE from £44k to £38.7k = £5.3k

S/Charged from £58k to £44k = £14k

4.4 HSE from £50k to £38k = £12k

Diesels are keeping better residual valve nowadays, So hes is not a million miles out, just being a bit hard,  997 TT, RR TDV8 Vog SE 90 V8 Hybrid
www.wessex4x4response.org.uk
http://forum.innovate4x4.com
G4 RRS Gone

TJ101 wrote:

Smarticus wrote:

Had a chat with my dealer today about depreciation. His estimate is that the following drop has been experienced over the last 12 months.

TDv6 HSE from £44k to £37k = £7k drop or 16%

S/Charged from £58k to £40k = £18k drop or 31%

4.4 HSE from £50k to £35k = £15k drop or 31%

Having said that he said the 4.4 price was a guestimate and could potentially be a lot lower / worse as there are so few in circulation, demand was low and some were bought a sizeable discounts first time around.

Hi Smarticus
Presume your dealer was working on a new Jan 2006 vehicle, the valve today with so call average miles ??

"Book" valves for info are (dec book working on 12k and 06 55 Reg HSE spec)

TDv6 HSE from £44k to £38.7k = £5.3k

S/Charged from £58k to £44k = £14k

4.4 HSE from £50k to £38k = £12k

Diesels are keeping better residual valve nowadays, So hes is not a million miles out, just being a bit hard,

How much do you think I should value options such as Dynamic Pack, Phone, Ipod, Side Steps etc?

PS - RRSPORT.CO.UK is a very positive and helpful community. Thanks again. Newbie PauloAmore.

PauloAmore - Afraid many optional extras can add very little additional value on a trade in. My dealer had a totally loaded 9 month old D3 for sale (with DVD player installed). He reckoned that all the extras would have cost £4,000 but only increased its resale value by about £1,000.

The "Book" has (he tells me) taken a big downward step in January (when often prices can actually firm up a bit in January) as a result of the TDv8 now hitting the street. That is taking huge chunks out of the S/c and 4.4 petrol residuals and more TDv6's are now coming onto the market as people (like me) trade in and up. I think we might see £30k for a 4.4 pretty soon and the S/C won't be that far behind........ (now where is that "grim reaper" emoticons ?). RRS TDv8 HSE Rimini
Disco 4 TDv6 HSE Ipanema
Defender 90, 200tdi CSW

Smarticus wrote:

I think we might see £30k for a 4.4 pretty soon and the S/C won't be that far behind........ (now where is that "grim reaper" emoticons ?).

PauloAmore wrote:

Smarticus wrote:

I think we might see £30k for a 4.4 pretty soon and the S/C won't be that far behind........ (now where is that "grim reaper" emoticons ?).

Smarticus - this year? Wow, that's be another mega drop on the car.
So you figure depreciation of "another" 25% this year. That'd be nearly 50% in 2 years. Well ahead of regualar cars and busting SUV norms. I'd thought it would slow down abit.

I was looking at a 4.4 for £39,500 on Autotrader. Figured a £17K saving in 6 months was quite good going. Maybe not.....

Smarticus wrote:

PauloAmore wrote:

Smarticus wrote:

I think we might see £30k for a 4.4 pretty soon and the S/C won't be that far behind........ (now where is that "grim reaper" emoticons ?).

Smarticus - this year? Wow, that's be another mega drop on the car.
So you figure depreciation of "another" 25% this year. That'd be nearly 50% in 2 years. Well ahead of regualar cars and busting SUV norms. I'd thought it would slow down abit.

I was looking at a 4.4 for £39,500 on Autotrader. Figured a £17K saving in 6 months was quite good going. Maybe not.....

SUV "Petrol" norms are 50% in 2 years. Look at contract hire rates for big petrol SUV's and you'll see what the "experts" expect the depreciation to be (and how much more severe than a diesel). The cost of a vehicle is not what you pay up front, its the difference between the price you pay and the trade in when you sell. That will always be less in a diesel. So don't be tempted into buying a petrol to save money. They will always cost you a lot more than a diesel, to run and own.

I reckon the cheapest RRS to own over the next 12 months will actually be a TDv8, which I figure on losing £8k. That 4.4 you are looking at will IMHO lose £10k. The cost of financing the difference between £39,500 and £53,000 will be about £1,000 a year, but at 10,000 miles the TDv8 will save you about £3,000 in fuel costs alone. So there you go, a TDv8 is a lot cheaper to own than a second hand 4.4 (jeez, I am sounding a bit like Kam - but then again I am an accountant too....).

My guesstimate for a 2006 TDv6 (bought new before the price hike) is as follows :


Age.........Miles.......Value
New..........0.........44,000
12 months 12,000 38,000
24 months 24,000 31,000
36 months 36,000 25,000
48 months 48,000 19,250
60 months 60,000 14,000

Deduct a further 25 pence a mile for excess mileage. RRS TDv8 HSE Rimini
Disco 4 TDv6 HSE Ipanema
Defender 90, 200tdi CSW

Smarticus wrote:

My guesstimate for a 2006 TDv6 (bought new before the price hike) is as follows :


Age.........Miles.......Value
New..........0.........44,000
12 months 12,000 38,000
24 months 24,000 31,000
36 months 36,000 25,000
48 months 48,000 19,250
60 months 60,000 14,000

Deduct a further 25 pence a mile for excess mileage.

I'm sorry. I meant the TDv8...
(above looks v. reasonable though)

You said that the TDV8 will save about £3000 in fuel alone. An exageration no? I reckoned that over 10,000 miles the SC would burn around £2500 fuel (total) assuming 85p per litre.

Thanks all.

Super charger it is.