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npinks

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don't you have to pay Gordon some TAX on the diesel you make, I seem to recall something on 5th Gear when they was running that Red Merc that you did

Tue Apr 01 2008 4:41pm

Tim in Scotland

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2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Stornoway Grey

S, we would have severe problems running our great big lump on diesel as it is designed to run on thick black sh*te. We are actually being forced down this route but is very expensive to buy and convert the engine to run on it - imagine the screams of the public because of the price increases of all of their food and cheap chinese manufactured goods to pay for the increased cost of the fuel - something in the order of doubling or tripling our daily fuel cost! Also we have to change all the fuel pumps (we have 48 on my ship each costs $50000) and the purfiying system as well as chnaging the entire lubrication system because we need to use a different luboil if we run on deisel!
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Tue Apr 01 2008 5:51pm

oilman151

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2006 Range Rover Sport 4.4 V8 HSE Java Black

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npinks wrote:
don't you have to pay Gordon some TAX on the diesel you make, I seem to recall something on 5th Gear when they was running that Red Merc that you did

You used to have to pay the equivalent tax to that paid on hydrocarbon fuel. Last year, they changed the law and allowed individuals to make up to 2500 litres/year without paying any tax.
Apparently it was costing them more to try and collect the tax on "chip oil" fuel than they could possibly make, so they gave up.
However, I'm absolutely convinced to my core, that there are some civil servants somewhere devising schemes to collect tax in some form or another on this type of fuel.
Lets face it, they try to persuade us not to use our vehicles, not to smoke, not to drink, but if everyone went on the wagon, stopped smoking and rode a bicycle everywhere, the government coffers would take a severe hammering. They're hippocrites, the lot of them!
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Tue Apr 01 2008 6:25pm

npinks

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do you have to use used oil on this sort of thing, whats the difference between used and new Question apart from bits in the oil, i presume it must have some sort of chemical change

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Tue Apr 01 2008 7:22pm

Tim in Scotland

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Just remember that burning anything that hasn't come out of an oil major's forecourt fuel pump will almost certainly validate your warranty - read the first section of your LR handbook, even bio-diesel doesn't wear with LR. What worries me is the warranty situation from next week when all fuels sold in the UK must contain 2.5% bio-fuel
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Tue Apr 01 2008 7:49pm

oilman151

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npinks wrote:
do you have to use used oil on this sort of thing, whats the difference between used and new apart from bits in the oil, i presume it must have some sort of chemical change

Obviously new oil is best - sunflower or rape seed oil are good. Used oil has to be filtered to remove solids. Used oil is better if it's only had vegetable matter cooked in it - chips! It's not so good if it's had a lot of meat products cooked in it - sausages, burgers etc.
Used oil is good for me as it's free! Very Happy

Agree about vehicles under warranty - LR will only tolerate 5%. In two weeks time all forecourt pump fuels have to contain 2 1/2% biofuel. You may already be putting small quantities of biofuel in your tank without realising it. Question

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Tue Apr 01 2008 10:09pm

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Didn't know that.... is that the thin end of the wedge, I wonder?
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Who cooks meat in oil?
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Wed Apr 02 2008 9:30am

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Very Annoyed wrote:
Who cooks meat in oil?

Surely you still have a fondue set in the cupboard Whistle

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Wed Apr 02 2008 9:36am

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Very Annoyed wrote:
Who cooks meat in oil?

I'll have my fillet steak cooked in butter, please Thumbs Up

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Wed Apr 02 2008 9:40am

Zilch

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shmoogle wrote:
Very Annoyed wrote:
Who cooks meat in oil?

I'll have my fillet steak cooked in butter, please

all round to VA's for dinner then Very Happy

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Only ever cook steak on the BBQ!
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Wed Apr 02 2008 9:42am

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Not sure what he knows about cooking anyway, he has kitchen staff for that.
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Wed Apr 02 2008 9:42am

Zilch

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Very Annoyed wrote:
Only ever cook steak on the BBQ!

best place for it, do you make the butler wear white gloves whilst turning the steak, apparently it keeps it tender Whistle

Wed Apr 02 2008 9:53am

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2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

Not sure where they get these prices from, UL is more expensive than Diesel over here but that report says differently.

Mate of mine was saying the other day when he arrived in Cyprus 5 years ago he could fill his L200 for CYP£9!! (GBP£11.50).

Now costs him equivalent in Euros of GBP£48.

That's quite a price hike!
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