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Gekko

Member Since: 04 Sep 2006
Location: West Midlands
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2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

Cheaper diesel deal? One for the mods to arrange.

Attention Mods and Those in Power on these Elite Forums....

Just met a chap who works for:

www.keyfuels.co.uk

I just spoke to Cynthia who is keen to arrange a consortium membership to their fuel card deal- I believe it works like a credit card which is accepted at their affiliated filling stations throughout the country. Otherwise you use their other system if ordering > 20,000 litres of diesel per month (usually HGVs).

Anyway, when I mentioned there's loads of potential customers, she asked me to get the "leader" to call and sort out a deal.

So, just doing my job....

If this is a load of crap, please ignore/delete the post and punish me. Most of us are reptiles... only the enlightened few become human beings.

Last edited by Gekko on Wed Nov 14 2007 7:39pm. Edited 1 time in total

Wed Nov 14 2007 7:38pm

Gekko

Member Since: 04 Sep 2006
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 94

Oh, and here's Cynthia's office number:

01922 704488 Most of us are reptiles... only the enlightened few become human beings.

Wed Nov 14 2007 7:39pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 30 May 2005
Location: Driving along in my automobile
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Gekko, the phone number's no good, we need a photo of Cynthia before we will even look at the deal...... 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Wed Nov 14 2007 7:41pm

kam100

Member Since: 28 Sep 2005
Location: In my office doing quotes!!
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Hmm interesting.. thats a good idea..
I'd be in for this.. have a new monster to feed now obviously! just for disels or can we use it for petrols too?
either way, im in..

Wed Nov 14 2007 8:10pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 30 May 2005
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Don't you already get cheaper diesel for the S320 Kam, VAT free as it's a "company" car? 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Wed Nov 14 2007 8:13pm

rrsjo

Member Since: 28 Nov 2006
Location: North Cambs
Posts: 551

2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Stornoway Grey

This sounds a great idea IF we can get enough of us to sign up to form a large enough customer base for them to be interested.

I'm all for it. Gone - 2008 TDV8, Stornoway Grey, ebony, zabrano trim, TV, Tasmods, mudflaps.

Wed Nov 14 2007 8:16pm

JayMann

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yeah this will be good

we do have all the other forums of Martin's that i'm sure will be up for this as well RRS TDV6 Gone but still around
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Wed Nov 14 2007 8:24pm

kam100

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Tim in Scotland wrote:
Don't you already get cheaper diesel for the S320 Kam, VAT free as it's a "company" car?

Nah mate.. the chauffeur side of the business has been set up as a seperate entity, balanced payments as you know don't attract VAT on the monthlies, and as i use the S320 for private/personal use as well (even if its stored at a private address, HM R&C can argue its a private vehicle therefore refuse the VAT Refund) i couldn't claim the VAT for the car back.. and VAT on the juice at this stage isn't worth me getting that company registered for VAT and having to do all the quarterly returns/admin etc.. I could try it on and try and claim the VAT back for the car, but i think it worked out to: around £7800 on the car, so it would have been quite sizeable, but at this stage it would have been a very VISIBLE Vat refund request for an entity with relatively little turnover, so would have likely led to drive by's and investigation by the VAT officer in the area, and as it has had an element of personal use, i can't put this through. The next cars, won't have any personal use and will be left at the office premises/storage/on jobs, so something for the future definitely.

When the licensing etc is all in place, and we launch ichauffeur Birmingham, the next cars in the 'fleet' (fingers crossed) will be 100% company cars, therefore i will be asking the VAT man for a fat cheque back off the invoice prices of the cars hopefully.. plus the fuel.. right now.. im running it on company juice whilst on jobs, but its my company, so still coming out of my pocket so to speak.. so im in either way.. my M3 looks like its got quite an apetite for the black stuff, so any way of reducing this would be welcomed..

Wed Nov 14 2007 8:26pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 30 May 2005
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I think I understand that Kam! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Wed Nov 14 2007 8:28pm

JayMann

Member Since: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Stop acting like snob when you just won the Lotto!
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Here goes you set him off now Tim RRS TDV6 Gone but still around
SL55 AMG
760Li Alpina
BMW 535D M Sport
BMW X6 XDrive35D
BMW 320D Coupe M Sport
And A Van For Rex!

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WINNER - 2008's Comedian Of The Year
WINNER - 2008's Funniest Incident

I love boobies i love boobies i love boobies cuz i'm a big kid now! (Come on everybody sing with me you know the words!)

Wed Nov 14 2007 8:33pm

kam100

Member Since: 28 Sep 2005
Location: In my office doing quotes!!
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Well it was something i really looked into, and spent ages talking to the wonderful people at HMR&C about...
Basically, i could have done it, and 9/10 it would go unchecked and i would have a phat £8k cheque back for the VAT.. however in our experience, we have seen cases in journals etc, where by the officers have watched apparent 100% commercial use vehicles be driven in to work in the morning by the employees, and all the cars had received full VAT refund allowance, so they all got caught out.

Im not willing to risk that in my position, and because of our primary business operation looking after the tax/accountancy affairs of over 400 companies across the UK now! no way.. its not the right way of doing things.. although.. on the next cars, when i get a storage area secured at the premises and leave them overnight etc then yes i will, as they will truely be 100% company cars. If you want to use them yourselves the proper way of doing it is to invoice yourself a nominal amount, and rent it out... but you can't take the pee with this and rent it for 365 a year and say.. its a rental car, rented to me all the time, so give me the VAT back! otherwise everyone would be doing this.. including myself!

One of our guys even suggested, charge the company from my personal home address, rent for the parking space! but i thought this would be ridiculous to try and get away with.. so chose to show it as a personal car for now.. Sorry for going off on one, but you know.. FINANCE/ACCOUNTS Runs very deep with me..

Wed Nov 14 2007 9:01pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 30 May 2005
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Too right Kam, no point in messing about and taking a risk with HMC, they always win in the end! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Wed Nov 14 2007 9:09pm

M3RUJ

Member Since: 05 Sep 2007
Location: Hertfordshire
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2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Zermatt Silver

Very interested in cheaper fuel - please count me in 2007 HSE 2.7TDV6 Silver

Thu Nov 15 2007 3:12pm

SteveWilliams

Member Since: 05 Aug 2007
Location: Swindon
Posts: 138

2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Rimini Red

Cheap fuel sounds good. Count me in

Thu Nov 15 2007 3:27pm

MAW

Member Since: 06 May 2006
Location: Lincs
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2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

I'm in - sounds like the pipeline card idea but running rather than an idea

Why wouldn't you be in

Thu Nov 15 2007 3:49pm

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