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simple1



Member Since: 15 Jan 2006
Location: Somerset
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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Cairns Blue
Wheel alignment

Does anyone have the wheel alignment figures for a TDV8. Need caster, camber and track for both front and rear. Dont ask why Big Cry Big Cry Censored 2x TDV6. SE and HSE. Both returned to sender with issues👀
TDV8 Sport HSE...... Gone. Loved it but it didn't love me!!
Now rolling in MY10 Fullfat TDV8 Vogue. Slammed it to go round corners🙈
Cruising daily #56 mph in a Volvo V8. 😱
Lots of other toys in the cupboard...😜

Post #142523 Tue Oct 23 2007 7:38am
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rrsjo



Member Since: 28 Nov 2006
Location: North Cambs
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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Stornoway Grey

Here they are:-

NOTE THE TDV8 DIFFERENCES


Front Suspension:

Castor = 4º 01' ± 45' (4.02º ± 0.75º)
Cross Castor = 0º ± 45' - Maximum (0º ± 0.75º - Maximum)
Camber = -30' ± 45' (0.50º ± 0.75º)
Cross Camber = 0º ± 45' - Maximum (0º ± 0.75º - Maximum)
King Pin Inclination (KPI) = 13º 54' (13.9º)
Total Toe - all models except TdV8 = - 0º 10' ± 12' (- 0.16º ± 0.20º)
Total Toe - TdV8 models only = - 0º 05' ± 12' (- 0.08º ± 0.20º)


Steering Geometry - Rear

Rear Suspension at Standard Ride Height:

Camber = -1° ± 45' (-1° ± 0.75º)
Cross Camber = 0° ± 51' - Maximum (0° ± 0.85º - Maximum)
Total Toe - all models except TdV8 = 0º 14' ± 0.08' (0.24º ± 0.14º)
Total Toe - TdV8 models only = 0º 24' ± 0.12' (0.40º ± 0.20º)
Thrust Angle = 0º ± 8' - Maximum (0º ± 0.14º - Maximum) Gone - 2008 TDV8, Stornoway Grey, ebony, zabrano trim, TV, Tasmods, mudflaps.

Post #142524 Tue Oct 23 2007 7:46am
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simple1



Member Since: 15 Jan 2006
Location: Somerset
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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Cairns Blue

Many thanks, I thought they were different to the V6. Now I can get all four wheels back to where they should be after some nice tyre garage adjusted the tracking with the wrong settings. 2x TDV6. SE and HSE. Both returned to sender with issues👀
TDV8 Sport HSE...... Gone. Loved it but it didn't love me!!
Now rolling in MY10 Fullfat TDV8 Vogue. Slammed it to go round corners🙈
Cruising daily #56 mph in a Volvo V8. 😱
Lots of other toys in the cupboard...😜

Post #142525 Tue Oct 23 2007 7:59am
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PauloAmore



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Out of interest, how did you know they used the wrong settings?

Also, on the TDv8, why the change of settings? Engine weight? 2022 P440e AB

Post #142529 Tue Oct 23 2007 8:53am
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simple1



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Cairns Blue

Must be something to do with the additional weight, the TdV8 is 2.7 tonnes and the V6 2.5.

Also found out that alignment can only be done with full tank of fuel or by adding 0.8Kgs per ltr of fuel. Tank holds 86 ltrs

The car has eaten a new tyre in a week, they graciously accepted the settings were incorrect and replaced the tyres on the front, but the car was pants to drive, very tetchy round roundabouts and cornered better to the left than the right. 2x TDV6. SE and HSE. Both returned to sender with issues👀
TDV8 Sport HSE...... Gone. Loved it but it didn't love me!!
Now rolling in MY10 Fullfat TDV8 Vogue. Slammed it to go round corners🙈
Cruising daily #56 mph in a Volvo V8. 😱
Lots of other toys in the cupboard...😜

Post #142603 Tue Oct 23 2007 6:44pm
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Endjin



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I was under the impression that Tyre Fitters were not able to carry out alignment / tracking on most modern 4x4's as they had to be done with specialist equipment - All they should do is fit tryes & Balance wheels. This was certainly the case with my Audi Quattro and I thought the same was true of the RRS - But Hey, Feel Free to slap me down if I'm talking out of the wrong hole! Rolling Eyes Whistle 2013 Discovery HSE Luxury - 3.0 SDV6 - Santorini Black
2013 Evoque 5 Door Pure Tech SD4 - Orkney Grey with Panoramic Roof (Mrs E's new baby)

GONE - RRS - 3.0 TDV6 HSE - Santorini (2010)
GONE - RRS - 2.7 TDV6 HSE - Java Black (2007)
GONE - Porsche Boxster S - 3.2 - Black

Post #142605 Tue Oct 23 2007 6:55pm
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rrsjo



Member Since: 28 Nov 2006
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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Stornoway Grey

TDV8's have different settings purely down to the extra weight of the engine up front.

Some high performance tyre fitting places do have the right equipment and the experience to do the job properly. Regardless of the type of organisation that has the equipment, the operator needs to be fully trained and experienced AND the equipment has to be regularly maintained and calibrated to keep it accurate. The trouble is, it is a bit like going to your favourite restaurant and expecting the same excellent standard of food - the regular chef may be on a day off and the apprentice is now in charge for the day!

How do I know about the TDV8 settings being different? Well I've experienced the problem previously with Porsches. I therefore took the trouble to check the printout results against Land Rovers data and surprise, surprise, I found out I knew more about TDV8s than the dealer's technician did. Hence my car goes back in again this week to have the alignment done again.

Incidently, some of you with cars that pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel on flat, straight roads, might be interested in the following I gleaned from somewhere in my distant past (one of the few benefits of being 60+):-

"Most cars are not particularly sensitive to caster settings. Nevertheless, it is important to ensure that the caster is the same on both sides of the car to avoid the tendency to pull to one side. " Gone - 2008 TDV8, Stornoway Grey, ebony, zabrano trim, TV, Tasmods, mudflaps.

Post #142614 Tue Oct 23 2007 8:53pm
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simple1



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Cairns Blue

Endjin wrote:
I was under the impression that Tyre Fitters were not able to carry out alignment / tracking on most modern 4x4's as they had to be done with specialist equipment - All they should do is fit tryes & Balance wheels. This was certainly the case with my Audi Quattro and I thought the same was true of the RRS - But Hey, Feel Free to slap me down if I'm talking out of the wrong hole! Rolling Eyes Whistle


Audi Quattro is one of the easiest cars to track providing the opo has the right settings. Most will put the Coupe settings into machine. As the Quattro turbo only has one adjustable arm on the front and two on the rear. Set the rear to toe out 0.5mm on each rear and 0.00 on the front and on they go. No other adjustment available. Whistle Sorry to go off topic, but having owned atleast one of these beast from 1984 until now have plenty of experience with them Thumbs Up 2x TDV6. SE and HSE. Both returned to sender with issues👀
TDV8 Sport HSE...... Gone. Loved it but it didn't love me!!
Now rolling in MY10 Fullfat TDV8 Vogue. Slammed it to go round corners🙈
Cruising daily #56 mph in a Volvo V8. 😱
Lots of other toys in the cupboard...😜

Post #142631 Wed Oct 24 2007 7:27am
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Misery



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Can't help sorry simple1 but just had to say i agree with you should have kept my FF vogue Big Cry Big Cry

Post #142838 Thu Oct 25 2007 8:45pm
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