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MDP



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MDP wrote:
Robin Sunpower wrote:

.....One World, One Planet, Give Peace a Chance.


Ps ... what Planet are you on Question 
" WITH MORE EXTRAS THAN A HOLLYWOOD EPIC "

Post #5038 Thu Nov 10 2005 2:32am
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BBlackRRS



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so when is the V12 coming to the RRS?

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MDP



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BBlackRRS wrote:
so when is the V12 coming to the RRS?


Now that would be nice Very Happy 
" WITH MORE EXTRAS THAN A HOLLYWOOD EPIC "

Post #5042 Thu Nov 10 2005 10:11am
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BBlackRRS wrote:
so when is the V12 coming to the RRS?


...with twin superchargers......bring it on.... Twisted Evil HSE TD6 (Java Black/Ivory (S/C grill, coded vents & 20" alloys), privacy glass, Tasmods sill guards)
911 GT3 (Guards Red, carbon interior)
ElanSE (BRG)

Post #5043 Thu Nov 10 2005 10:53am
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cherrybay



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Belgium 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Zermatt Silver
@robin sunpower

Please .... I started this thread to learn something about a subject I want to learn about , thats why i asked it to people that are willing to help me. I didn't ask YOU (because you are against us) anything !




So please ... www.greenpeace.org have fun elswhere

p.s I bet you still drive in a old bedford that give more polusion then 10 range rovers together.

Post #5044 Thu Nov 10 2005 10:55am
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Gazzer



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Robin the sunflower does have a point about the inadequate fuel consumption of these new RR's. They are made of aluminium now and still do hopeless mpg's. Aircraft engines have come along in leaps and bounds for efficien by comparison.

As for the 4x4 debate, you can drive whatever you like, don't let anyone say otherwise!

Rule RRS!!!!!

G Full Fat!!

Post #5045 Thu Nov 10 2005 11:01am
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Tim in Scotland



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Gazzer wrote:
......... They are made of aluminium now and still do hopeless mpg's.


Gazzer do you mean the engines or the bodies............... the only aluminium bodied Land Rover these days is the Defender all the rest are very thin steel sheet, easier to repair, better crashworthiness and easier to make corrosion resistant (early S1 Discos are noted for their aluminium oxidization bubbles under the paint as are Defenders!), the draw back is they dent easily and are heavier than early Land Rovers.. Yes the engines are mainly aluminium now.

The Freelander has a large number of plastic body panels to help keep the repair costs down. A Carbon Footprint is the mark a lump of coal makes when it's dropped on the ground.

TDv8 HSE - Stornoway Grey with ebony and straight grain walnut wood-a-like interior with towpack, Tasmods. The best car I have ever owned
Now departed - Giverny Green TDv6SE with Aspen and Parchment interior - nearly the best car I have ever owned
Staying - Epsom Green Defender 90 for playing off road

Post #5050 Thu Nov 10 2005 11:36am
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Gazzer



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Hi Tim, I was under the impression the new RR's were made of a honeycomb aluminium as is the new sport? With traditional steel chassis. Am I talking total bollox, if so I'm sorry. The question then would be why aren't they made of aluminium?

G Full Fat!!

Post #5057 Thu Nov 10 2005 12:06pm
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Tim in Scotland



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I think basically it is COST! I too was surprised to find this out when I went to Solihull on the Home of the Legend trip. A Carbon Footprint is the mark a lump of coal makes when it's dropped on the ground.

TDv8 HSE - Stornoway Grey with ebony and straight grain walnut wood-a-like interior with towpack, Tasmods. The best car I have ever owned
Now departed - Giverny Green TDv6SE with Aspen and Parchment interior - nearly the best car I have ever owned
Staying - Epsom Green Defender 90 for playing off road

Post #5059 Thu Nov 10 2005 12:13pm
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Gazzer



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Hence the LR3 weighs in at something like 2.5 tonnes!

The RR doors are made of a die cast alu I'm sure thats why they so light?

G Full Fat!!

Post #5064 Thu Nov 10 2005 12:26pm
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Tim in Scotland



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Stornoway Grey

As is the RR's bonnet - it is the largest single Al pressing in the world! The upper section of the Sport's rear hatch is plastic. Freelanders front and rear wings and bonnet and outer rear door skin are also plastic A Carbon Footprint is the mark a lump of coal makes when it's dropped on the ground.

TDv8 HSE - Stornoway Grey with ebony and straight grain walnut wood-a-like interior with towpack, Tasmods. The best car I have ever owned
Now departed - Giverny Green TDv6SE with Aspen and Parchment interior - nearly the best car I have ever owned
Staying - Epsom Green Defender 90 for playing off road

Post #5066 Thu Nov 10 2005 12:33pm
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Gazzer



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Plastic fantastic! Full Fat!!

Post #5068 Thu Nov 10 2005 12:49pm
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Tim in Scotland



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Stornoway Grey

You would think with more and more of a car having to be recyclable that LR would use more Alminium and plastic in their cars.................. once steel is chemically treated and painted just about all it is good for in it's next life is reinforcing bar! I took a 70000 tonnes ship to BanglaDesh 8 years ago for recycling(scrapping) - it was worth it as the ship had been one of the largest containerships in the world when it was built in 1969 and was massively over-engineered as in those days technology and computers could not do the things they can now. The ship was built of both Very High Tensile Steel and Stainless Steel, and even after 30 years service it was still suitable for recycling, it's probably now been made into millions of razor blades and thousands of cars! The sale of that one ship kicked up so much fuss with the tree huggers that the company I worked for opened their own ship recycling facility (aka a scrapyard!) in China where nobody could get to it to demostrate/ make a fuss, depriving 1000's of Bangla Deshis of a living. A Carbon Footprint is the mark a lump of coal makes when it's dropped on the ground.

TDv8 HSE - Stornoway Grey with ebony and straight grain walnut wood-a-like interior with towpack, Tasmods. The best car I have ever owned
Now departed - Giverny Green TDv6SE with Aspen and Parchment interior - nearly the best car I have ever owned
Staying - Epsom Green Defender 90 for playing off road

Post #5070 Thu Nov 10 2005 1:24pm
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I seem to remember there being a documentary on TV years ago about the ship dismantling businesses in Asia - I guess maybe that was Bangladesh or India. They were saying it took years for them to dismantle the whole thing... kept them in work for ages. There was this clamour of people who pitched up at the ship yard when they knew a ship was coming in for wrecking, all vying for jobs. Quite incredible... 

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Robin Sunpower



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Thanks guys for your comments regarding my post, very interesting/useful.
I'll be polite and leave you, in peace, of course.




Reduce the Juice!

http://www.stopurban4x4s.org.uk/

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