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Tim in Scotland



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Lost number plates when offroading

Here's a fix to save you loosing your front number plate when offroading in deep mud and standing water like VA did recently and I have done several times on mt Defender.......................

Remove front plate from bumper and clean both the plate and front bumper number plate area thoroughly with fresh water with no detergent.
Using white spirits or a hair-drier remove all traces of the glue used on double sided sticky pads used by dealers from both the plate and the mounting area on the front bumper.
Thoroughly dry the plate and the bumper
Lightly sand both the back of the number plate and the area where it mounts on the bumper to give a good surface for silicone sealant to adhere to.
Buy a number plate fixing screw kit from Halfords/ auto store and a small tube of CLEAR, waterproof bathroom silicone sealant from a DIY store.
Using some BluTac or similar temporary adhesive position the number plate on the bumper and using a fast drill and small diameter bit, drill guide holes through the number plate and into the bumper.
Remove plate and clean off the blueTac and any swarf from drilling the holes.
About 10mm in from the edge of the number plate lay a trail of silicone sealant right round the plate and also near to the drilled holes.
Position the white washers from the plate mounting kit and screw the mounting screws right through the plate until the end is sticking out and then position the plate over the screw holes in the bumper and screw the plate firmly into position taking care not to force silicone sealant out from between the two surfaces. Leave to dry.
If any silicone sealant has come out from the joint then take a kraft/ stanley knife and LIGHTLY run it around the edge of the plate, only enough pressure to score the silicone and not enough to mark the car's body and then peel off the tails of sealant.

The main cause of loosing front plates offroad is because when you hit thin mud and water fast it is forced up between the plate and the bumper with enough force to snap the plate or tear off the double sided sticky pads, the silicone sealant prevents the water from getting in there in the first place. If you want to make doubly sure that the plate won't come off then you can apply loc-tite to the screw threads when you screw the screws in but I personnally don't do this incase I want to replace the front plate for some other reason (my plates are cherished/ vanity number plates so they get moved from car to car when I buy a new one, I always remove the plates from the car that I sell so the dealer cannot leave it on display with my private reg on it........) 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Kaine



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cheers Tim - great tip Thumbs Up


of course you could always go the VA route and have a winch installed and then mount the plate on brackets above it Wink

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Tim in Scotland



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This fix is about £800 cheaper and your car will still fit into a standard size parking bay in a multistory car park whereas with VA's fix your car ends up a bit longer! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

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Wink Thumbs Up

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I've gone the velcro route - so if I need to take the plate off easily I can. 2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
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Tim in Scotland



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and so can all the neds wherever you park the car! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

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Yes but they've got to know that's stuck on that way. No difference to the sticky pads either. 2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
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Why not just use a stick backed floppy type of number plate and stick it to the bonnet, saves all the trouble Rolling Eyes some of my Previous cars
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You could just not go offroad and then it wouldn't happen! Whistle 

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shmoogle wrote:
You could just not go offroad and then it wouldn't happen! Whistle



Or just buy another 4x4 to off road and wreck Whistle some of my Previous cars
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I'm assuming that while you're on private land you don't need to display your plates anyway, so the VA route seems simplest - just rip them off before you get muddy and put them back afterwards! 

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And if you're not on private land put the plate on the dash. 2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
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Or just slow down in water Rolling Eyes

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Doesn't look as good if you do it slowly! Shocked 

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Pelyma wrote:
Or just slow down in water Rolling Eyes

Correct Sad

Fortunately my plate/plinth was still attached... just... after I did the same water splash as VA 20 minutes earlier... Steve N | 21MY Defender (on order) | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)

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