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Xrover



Member Since: 08 Feb 2018
Location: Palm Desert
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United States 2008 Range Rover Sport 4.4 V8 HSE Zermatt Silver
2008 Range Rover Sport Death Wobble

Hi guys, I could use your expertise.

I recently purchased a used 2008 RRS HSE with 65,000 miles on it. (North America) the previous owner hadn’t driven the car for 6 months. He took a job in the UK and decided to stay there. The Rover sat parled in the driveway at his roommates house in California and was only started and driven around the block infrequently.

Before moving, the owner bought four new Pirelli tires for the OEM 19” wheels.

I test drove the car with my Land Rover mechanic before purchasing it. We neww it needed front lower control arms immediately. Other than that, everything else just needed routine maintenance as well as brakes.

After all the services were performed, I drove the car on a few highways and noticed the steering wheel shaking back and forth. At speeds between 45-70 mph there were times when the shaking got so bad that it started shaking the entire front end. It felt like I was driving over rumble strips. I had to slow down and pull over a few times.

I went and got the tires road force balanced as well as a four wheel alignment.
That helped a little but it would occasionally get into a death wobble on the highway.

We did find the tie rod ends were bad and we just replaced the inner and outer and did another alignment.

The death wobble still persists.

The fact that the car sat for 6 months would lead me to suspect that the tores have developed flat spots but the tire shop didn’t say anything when they road forced balanced them.

I’ve been reading all the other posts and TSB’s about this issue and it is overwhelming on what Lamd Rover and Dealers have been replacing without any real answers.

Any help from you guys is appreciated

Thanks,
Len

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Tyrefitter



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United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Autobiography Fuji White

Easiest way is if you know someone else with same car & swap wheels over.

Andy. Andy.

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PC76



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Adriatic Blue

I had a wobble at speed turned out to be the brakes binding, got them replaced on under warranty from the garage i purchased it from.

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Paddi



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Java Black

Agree that sounds like binding front brake. I had the same on my old Jeep Cherokee. Completely out of the blue experienced the shaking quite violently. Easy to tell if you stop and feel the wheels the offending side will be hot and/or terrible smell of overheated brake pads.

Turned out the Cherokee is famous for it caused by defective caliper design. In the OP's case I'd imagine the calipers just need an overhaul as the pistons are seizing in the bore. 2008 MY Java Black TDV8 HSE

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GodivaNige



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England 2009 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Buckingham Blue

PC76 wrote:
I had a wobble at speed turned out to be the brakes binding, got them replaced on under warranty from the garage i purchased it from.


Yep, me too. Shortly after buying my car after it had been sat on a forecourt for a good few weeks. The chronic shaking turned out to be a binding o/s rear brake calliper and a binding n/s front. Only discovered after an episode of this shaking, pulled over and felt the very hot wheels. A new rear calliper and new pistons/seals in the Brembo front... problem sorted.

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Xrover



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United States 2008 Range Rover Sport 4.4 V8 HSE Zermatt Silver

I don’t have access to another set of 19” Wheels/Tires. Interesting info about the brake calipers binding. I’ll keep my temp gun in the car and check the brake temps next time it happens.

Thanks guys! 2006 LR3 HSE
2008 RRS HSE

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SRE



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If you have replaced/rebuilt the front suspension, then I hope you have had a "proper* Wheel Alignment. Excessive Toe-out or Toe-in can cause a serious shake. In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Down and out's Velar
In UK - Not saying, but its NOT a Muddy Milk Float.
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Post #549123 Mon Feb 19 2018 9:15am
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Eaters



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Zermatt Silver

Have you swapped tyres front to back? Some tyres get wear that can cause issues ( my Uniroyals for one) and whilst the shaking issue is not the same symptoms as mine, its an easy and cheap check to just eliminate this as a possible problem. They would still balance OK but on the road would throw up issues when under load.

Also check rear dampers. Again an easy check. just stand in the boot and bounce once. There should be no continual up and down movement. Car should go down when you apply weight, come up and then back to stop at original position.

Not quite a solution to your symptoms but as these cost nothing, its good to eliminate them. Robin
2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8
Awaiting rebuild: NGTF
Gone:
Jaguar S-Type V8 4.2 Sport
MGZTT 190 2.5

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Xrover



Member Since: 08 Feb 2018
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United States 2008 Range Rover Sport 4.4 V8 HSE Zermatt Silver

UPDATE:

I took the vehicle to a large Pirelli dealer to see if they would replace the tires under warranty. I knew they would go through all the balancing procedures and see if the tires were damaged or deformed from sitting for so long.
They ended up finding that the last road force balancing was done incorrectly and excessive weight was applied and in the wrong spots. They road force balanced all the wheels/ tires and did a final high speed balance. They ended up removing 5oz. Of weights just on one of the front tires. When all was said and done, very little weight was needed on each tire and the shaking is completely gone. The steering is shake free at high speed.

They didn’t charge me anything! The tires were originally purchased from somewhere else!

Thank you Americas Tire.. 2006 LR3 HSE
2008 RRS HSE

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Eaters



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Zermatt Silver

Glad you got it sorted and relatively easily. It’s a shame that some “automotive specialists “ aren’t.

Well done to your Pirelli experts who have just gained another customer or two because of their good service. Robin
2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8
Awaiting rebuild: NGTF
Gone:
Jaguar S-Type V8 4.2 Sport
MGZTT 190 2.5

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