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kmpowell



Member Since: 23 Oct 2016
Location: UK
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The RRS is the most unreliable car on sale today!

According to the What-Car survey released today...

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"At the bottom end of the scale, the least reliable large SUV - and least reliable of all cars - is the Range Rover Sport diesel, with an comparably appalling reliability rating of just 14.5 per cent.

What Car? noted: ’Worryingly 60 per cent of Range Rover Sport diesels had problems. They spanned a wide range of areas, the most serious of which were the gearbox, drivetrain, engine and suspension.
'Not all cars were fixed under warranty and some were off the road for more than a week.’ "


 MY16 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic - Fire Engine Red, Fixed contrast panoramic roof, TV, Dual Screen, 5+2, Privacy.

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TDV8HST



Member Since: 16 Apr 2008
Location: uk & Europe
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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 Autobiography Fuji White

Wow frightening ! Evil or Very Mad Fuji white. Le Mans interior Autobiography.2011

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Johnski



Member Since: 02 Sep 2015
Location: North Wales & North Yorkshire
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Wales 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Lux Sumatra Black

No shock or surprises there then, they are getting worse every year. Whistle John

RRS MY12 SDV6 HSE. Sumatra Black/Ebony & Walnut + Dynamic Pack, + Cold Climate Pack + Memory Pack, Digital TV/DVD, Premium Leather, Cornering Lights, Cooler/Fridge Box, & most Options.

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Jaggs



Member Since: 09 Aug 2015
Location: Leeds
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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

You have to wonder when the bubble will burst for JLR, I know quite a few who have left the brand as will I next time I change after 20 years of Landrovers, I'm also quick to talk anyone out of buying one. Nanocom Evo

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Johnski



Member Since: 02 Sep 2015
Location: North Wales & North Yorkshire
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Wales 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Lux Sumatra Black

Even Jaguar is at the bottom end for reliability too. John

RRS MY12 SDV6 HSE. Sumatra Black/Ebony & Walnut + Dynamic Pack, + Cold Climate Pack + Memory Pack, Digital TV/DVD, Premium Leather, Cornering Lights, Cooler/Fridge Box, & most Options.

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jim4244



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England 2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Santorini Black

Hmmmmmm....... yet another reason why I think that my current RRS will be my last. 🤔

Jim

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TDV8HST



Member Since: 16 Apr 2008
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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 Autobiography Fuji White

I,m worried my old 2011 car has been perfect, should i keep it perhaps. Question Fuji white. Le Mans interior Autobiography.2011

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Johnski



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Wales 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Lux Sumatra Black

TDV8HST, On current problems and number of electrical gremlins I think any Mk1 is far better than the Mk2s.
I would keep it while you are happy and it's running ok. That's what I've decided with MY12 car. John

RRS MY12 SDV6 HSE. Sumatra Black/Ebony & Walnut + Dynamic Pack, + Cold Climate Pack + Memory Pack, Digital TV/DVD, Premium Leather, Cornering Lights, Cooler/Fridge Box, & most Options.

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TDV8HST



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 Autobiography Fuji White

The cars perfect and as new but i want a SVR but hate to give it away Big Cry Fuji white. Le Mans interior Autobiography.2011

Post #539348 Thu Oct 26 2017 3:52pm
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 30 May 2005
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2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

Apart from a flat battery 2 weeks ago my L494 has been totally reliable. Pity that the survey doesn’t go into more depth as I think many of ther issues for both Jaguar and Land Rover could be put down to InControl Touch Pro, I’m sorry to say but I think a lot of problems with older RRS’s is due to owners scrimping on maintenance - these are expensive and complex cars and need proper treatment.
After owning many many Land Rover products since the 1990’s my present car will be the last new Land Rover I will be buying, the pricing is now out of my league to replace my L494 with a new one to the same spec and the horror stories we read on this forum is enough to make me consider keeping my present car a bit longer, but I am having problems resisting a very healthy offer for the RRS from my local Mini dealership in exchange for what seems to be an extremely well built, if a tad pricey for a small SUV, Mini Countryman 1.5 petrol auto PHEV. I’m even giving up on any form of affordable Defender replacement coming along soon......... my 1996 TDi 300 just runs and runs and runs. 2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, preceeded by a 2.7SE RRS, a 3.6TDv8 RRS, several FFRR's and 2 Evoques.
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW.... my fun car to enjoy bashing and denting 20 years old and still giving loads of fun

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Hog



Member Since: 03 Dec 2015
Location: Nigeria
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Netherlands 2011 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Baltic Blue

I agree with the findings. I have always took extreme good care of my RRS. It did not help that much.
My disco's series I , II and III did slightly better, but they had V8 engines.
The RRS 3.0 TDV6 is full of electronics and has a complicated motor management. It is a pain in the neck!
If it drives its hard to beat. But the last 2 years a total of almost one year in the workshop is far to much!
Not to mention the lack of spare parts sometimes. Never a diesel car again! LR 3 HSE V8 gone
DiscoveryII V8 Gone
Discovery 1 V8 Gone
Mustang Shelby
Alfa Guilia (classic)

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muddywheels
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England 

Just seen this and I'm not surprised based on my experience Rolling Eyes

I'm pleased to see Lexus top and Mitsubishi 2nd though - I've finally done something right Laughing 


NOW GONE

MY16 DS
MY10/13 RRSs - Mini One
FL2s
Jag X-type
D2s - MGTF
FL1s
Landcruiser, Mondeo, Escort, Orion, Astra GTE, Xr3i, Renault 5/19/18, Fiesta 1300S, Allegro, Avenger, Honda MTX, Yamaha FS1E

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GodivaNige



Member Since: 14 May 2016
Location: Warwickshire
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England 2009 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Buckingham Blue

Fully agree with the MX-5 score, its been like this for years

SWMBO bought a Mk2.5 brand new, ran it for 120K miles and not one thing failed, just servicing and brakes/tyres/bulbs replaced as required. Her current Mk3 again bought new, now at 65K miles and as yet, the same, no failures whatsoever. It just works.

Not that there is much to go wrong.

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Pakolainen



Member Since: 14 Mar 2016
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Finland 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

the wife didnät want me to read this to her. I am planning to get a newer RRS and she just bought a brand new Jag XE, after humming and having with the Lexus. 2006 RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSe
Alfa Romeo Guillietta 2.0 JTDM 2011
Mazda 3 1.6 2010
Subaru Impreza 2.0 WRX 2005

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RRSTDV8



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Stornoway Grey

Tim in Scotland wrote:
I’m sorry to say but I think a lot of problems with older RRS’s is due to owners scrimping on maintenance - these are expensive and complex cars and need proper treatment.

Whilst I agree with the general principle, Tim, I have to say that it's not that simple. My 10yo TDV8 has received an awful lot of work - stuff done as soon as it comes to light etc. It's worked for a living but been well taken care of. I have noticed that it has had many fewer issues since I started using an indie for all work.

When a main dealer worked on it, it was forever having to go in for stuff. When it was in they also damaged it - new steering rack and lower column required. Having put a new rack in, they didn't bother with an alignment. When I insisted, they used a Dunlop gauge because the ramp with the alignment kit had one of the mechanic's cars on it! Starter motor not fitted correctly, body not put back on properly after a turbo change, brackets/bolts not fitted properly. All main dealer.

I think the dreadful quality of the main dealers is LR's biggest issue, leaving QC at the factory aside. When vehicles are presented to dealers for fixing, they seem incapable, or unwilling, to fix them. Sure, the vehicles have some inherent faults and LR seem unwilling to sort those. But the real problem stems from Censored poor dealers. Vehicles that have had 3,4,5 or more years of main dealer servicing have potentially been bodged and broken and the third or fourth owner ends up trying to sort the issues. Then the bills arrive and people run away. 2012 SDV6
2008 TDV8 - it's a labour of love

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