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fkarim



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Location: London
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muddywheels wrote:
... LR are designing beautiful cars ...


Have you seen D5? Laughing Current: MY16 RRS2 3.0 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic, Carpathian Grey & Santorini Black Sliding Pano/Ebony & Ivory 2 Tone
Gone: MY13 RRS 3.0 SDV6 HSE Black Edition, Orkney Grey/Ivory
Gone: MY09 RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSE, Santorini Black/Almond

Post #541147 Fri Nov 17 2017 3:08pm
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Meiang



Member Since: 29 Apr 2011
Location: Perth
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Australia 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Santorini Black

The only reason I would not buy an LC200 is that it is only available with a 4.6l V8 Petrol here in AUS. You have to buy a Lexus version to get the 5.7l V8 Petrol and it has the most ugly plastic body kit mankind can design. Elsewhere in the world you can buy an LC200 with a 5.7l V8 Petrol. The 4.7L only has 227kW of power which is not quite enough.

The LC200 is significantly less in price compared to an RRS and the resale price is second to none, plus it doesn't have anywhere near the quality issues a RR has.

Why can't RR build a much simpler, more reliable car. I believe there are a lot of people who would buy a RRS with a decent engine but none of that electronic go wrong stuff that seems to be flavour of the minute at the moment and still pay a lot of money for it.

Luxury is not based upon how much electronic frippery is installed.

Check out the prices of 20 year old V8 Defender 90's in the US.

Post #541150 Fri Nov 17 2017 3:31pm
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 30 May 2005
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2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

econ wrote:
What's going on here???

I had been planning to buy a new RRS over next couple of months and now you've all gone and put me off!!!

I was planning on getting the petrol hybrid....


Then you should have no issues with the Ingenium Petrol 2.0ltr as it isn’t the same engine as the SDv6/TDv6. The Diesel SDv6 is a Ford/PSA unit which will get replaced by an in house LR Ingenium engine in the next couple of years. The problem here is with the V6 Diesel 2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV on order for April delivery, bye bye Land Rover after 21 years and 11 LR products..... all because you won’t give me reassurance that should my SDv6 crankshaft break because of a design fault, not MY fault, but the engine builders fault - it will be replaced for free.
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, but not for much longer........
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Post #541151 Fri Nov 17 2017 3:46pm
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SVR575



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econ wrote:
Sad

What other cars would you guys recommend that I look at?


Porsche Cayenne , just cant get past the look though, but i,m sure they are good. SVR on order.

Post #541152 Fri Nov 17 2017 3:59pm
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Meiang



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Australia 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Santorini Black

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"What other cars would you guys recommend that I look at?"

It depends how low down the food chain your ego will let you go.

Also, put it this way, very few people buy an expensive TV these days for two reasons.
- They get out of date very quickly.
- When they go wrong, you throw them away as they are not worth repairing, no one knows how to repair them and no one carries spare parts to repair them anyway.

New cars are now like TV's.

If you buy a cheap car your less likely to get bitter and twisted when it goes wrong becuase you didnt pay very much and generally they are less likely to go wrong compared to expensive cars. And if they don't go wrong you go yey how good is this.

Next scenario, you buy an expensive car and nothing goes wrong. You go well I paid all that money so it shouldnt go wrong - I made the right decission. How likely is that - these days not much, so you go I paid all that money and got ripped off, the manufacturer/dealer wont fix it or cant fix it. Not happy Jan (If you are in Aus you will know what Not Happy Jan means).

Buy a car now is like gambling, the more you spend the more you will likely lose.

Plus when it goes wrong the better half will give you a hard time about buying that stupid car.

Post #541154 Fri Nov 17 2017 4:28pm
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Gandalf



Member Since: 11 Sep 2017
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England 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Rimini Red

Came on here because was going to upgrade to a RRS Censored that I'll stick with my 13 old D2 had it 3 years and it's cost me £1800, £800 of that was for a clutch. and my previous 21yr old 300TDI is still going last time I checked.

Post #541164 Fri Nov 17 2017 5:37pm
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Jaggs



Member Since: 09 Aug 2015
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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

Don't blame you, I came from a D2 to RRS, not a day goes by that I don't regret moving to the RRS, the D2 served well for 12 years and never let me down or surprised me with ridiculous bills. Nanocom Evo

Post #541167 Fri Nov 17 2017 5:44pm
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Johnski



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Wales 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Lux Sumatra Black

Meiang wrote:


Also, put it this way, very few people buy an expensive TV these days for two reasons.
- They get out of date very quickly.
- When they go wrong, you throw them away as they are not worth repairing, no one knows how to repair them and no one carries spare parts to repair

New cars are now like TV's.


A very large amount do spend a lot still on TV check the sales charts.
I spent just over £3000 on a new TV set and well pleased, (UHD 4k 75” HDR OLED) and it comes with manufacturers 6 year warranty and I generally change about every 5 Years or so. Most modern Pro sets can be fully updated too. John

RRS MY12 SDV6 HSE. Sumatra Black/Ebony & Walnut + Dynamic Pack, + Cold Climate Pack + Memory Pack, Digital TV/DVD, Premium Leather, Cornering Lights, Cooler/Fridge Box, & most Options.

Post #541181 Fri Nov 17 2017 7:21pm
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Meiang



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Australia 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Santorini Black

I traded my 2001 V8 D2 on my current 2010 TDV8 (bought new). The D2 was super reliable compared to the RRS

Post #541182 Fri Nov 17 2017 7:26pm
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muddywheels
Milk Float Man


Member Since: 01 Jul 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
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Fkarim - I have seen loads of D5's - round here they're as common as Beemers and Audis - not seen any Velars yet though Wink 


NOW GONE

MY16 DS
MY10/13 RRSs - Mini One
FL2s
Jag X-type
D2s - MGTF
FL1s
Landcruiser, Mondeo, Escort, Orion, Astra GTE, Xr3i, Renault 5/19/18, Fiesta 1300S, Allegro, Avenger, Honda MTX, Yamaha FS1E

Post #541186 Fri Nov 17 2017 8:22pm
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muddywheels
Milk Float Man


Member Since: 01 Jul 2010
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I wish I'd kept my D2 Metropolis Big Cry 


NOW GONE

MY16 DS
MY10/13 RRSs - Mini One
FL2s
Jag X-type
D2s - MGTF
FL1s
Landcruiser, Mondeo, Escort, Orion, Astra GTE, Xr3i, Renault 5/19/18, Fiesta 1300S, Allegro, Avenger, Honda MTX, Yamaha FS1E

Post #541187 Fri Nov 17 2017 8:22pm
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Tyrefitter



Member Since: 19 Jul 2015
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United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Autobiography Fuji White

Ive seen 3 velar’s,,1 on the road & 2 in LR dealers at Pickering that they can’t sell because they are overpriced.

Andy. 2014 RRS SC santorino,coris roof.
2016 VW Amarok Highline,candy white
2014 Evoque D-Lux Fuji
Previous motor.
2014 RRS AB FUJI
2012 RRS Dynamic red edition Fuji
2012 RRS SE santorino
2015 Navara White
2008 RRS white TDV8
2007 RRS black TDV8
2002 RR Vogue
1996 P38 2.5 HSE.

Post #541188 Fri Nov 17 2017 8:35pm
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muddywheels
Milk Float Man


Member Since: 01 Jul 2010
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Actually I did see a Velar in Hull Lexus customer parking - I thought about enquiring why it was there but didn't Wink 


NOW GONE

MY16 DS
MY10/13 RRSs - Mini One
FL2s
Jag X-type
D2s - MGTF
FL1s
Landcruiser, Mondeo, Escort, Orion, Astra GTE, Xr3i, Renault 5/19/18, Fiesta 1300S, Allegro, Avenger, Honda MTX, Yamaha FS1E

Post #541189 Fri Nov 17 2017 8:45pm
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AHSFCA



Member Since: 09 Mar 2011
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Tyrefitter wrote:
Ive seen 3 velar’s,,1 on the road & 2 in LR dealers at Pickering that they can’t sell because they are overpriced.

Andy.


Maybe in the UK but internationally they're selling fairly well. Over 16k so far and I think in September they sold more Velars than Sports. Don't get me wrong, I love the Sport and had an RRS1 and will get the next generation Sport. But I love my Velar First Edition as it's a wonderful drive. 2018 Sport SVR with SVO colour on order
2018 First Edition Velar Corris Grey

Post #541220 Sat Nov 18 2017 4:41am
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Cymruambyth



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Wales 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged HST Zermatt Silver

I saw a Velar in Sainsburys the other week. They look very long! Steve.


2006 Zermatt Silver, Range Rover Sport HST 4.2 Supercharged on 22" Stormer Alloys.

Post #541234 Sat Nov 18 2017 10:32am
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