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RRSman



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2018 Porsche Cayenne Pics

Pretty dissapointing was expecting a major update but this seems like a facelift.

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DrRob



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

You chose right with the Velar Thumbs Up GONE - SDV6 HSE MY2012 in Orkney Grey.
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RRSTDV8



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Stornoway Grey

The Cayenne is a great example of why car manufacturers should not try to give everything in their range a "family look". Attempting to put a 911 face on a big 4x4 didn't work on day one and it still doesn't work today.

From the initial pics, I think I prefer the Cayenne's dash / centre console to the Velar's but it might just be because it has a "gearstick" rather than a rotary dial thingy. 2012 SDV6
2008 TDV8 - it's a labour of love

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Camelrock



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Tangiers Orange

What an ugly looking car, sorry but that dash apart from the centre screen reminds me of a 1980`s VW very basic and functional but no style whatsoever, apart from that it's ok Thumbs Up 2008 G4 RRSport TDV8
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Johnski



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Wales 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Lux Sumatra Black

I see the new Porsche Macan managed to beat the new Range Rover Velar in Autoexpress road test unfortunately.
Handling of Velar isn't as good either. Whistle

Several reviews of the Velar are stating that the seats are uncomfortable, anyone tried them yet, I thought they would be same as Sport at the price?

Other negative comments on Velar is several options are more expensive than the better RRS models. Where are they meant to be aiming for? John

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JOCK55



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United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Firenze Red

Johnski, I went to the Velar launch at my local LR dealer about a month ago. Their aim is to build a car that hits a mark between Ewok and RRS, or so I was informed by the salesman. The nearest correlation that I can see is the Porsche Macan. However the example that I drove did not have the build quality of Porsche. The seats were covered in some sort of synthetic material, which I found odd. The suspension I found rather harsh. The dash lay-out was quite nice, but I agree with others and do not like the wee rotary knob in place of a proper gear stick. The model I drove for a short test drive was equipped with the 4 cylinder Ingenium engine, which was nearly as swift as the 3.0l. SDV6 but not as smooth. The vehicle is slightly smaller than the RRS and although I didn't actually sit in the rear seats there didn't appear to be as much leg room as you would find in an RRS. I really cannot see where LR have dreamed their pricing up for this car. There are other vehicles already on the market, comparable to this, for around £8,000 less. No doubt the LR/RR badge will sell it, however, I believe that if you want a small RR then the Evoque is more than adequate.

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SVR575



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 Autobiography Fuji White

so ugly that Cayenne! Fuji white. Le Mans interior Autobiography.2011
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Johnski



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Thanks for your response and comments Jock, I found similar and find the Velar to over priced for what it's offering, and can see why people and reviewers are moaning. Whistle John

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RRSman



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The motoring press love the Porsches and they pretty much win all contests that compare them to rivals. IMHO the Velar is a very accomplished car in it's own right but for it to "win" against a Porsche is not going to happen. The Velar in First edition guise is brilliant and this is from an owner not a reviewer Thumbs Up

AFAIAW the RRS never beat a Cayenne either and I've had both the Cayenne and RRS and much preferred the latter. 2017 Range Rover Velar First Edition - Corris Grey. Delivered 28/07/2017

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Autocar have always rated the RRS over the Cayenne and this week in the Velar roadtest rank the RRS 1st against the Cayenne 5th. The Velar doesn't get into the top 5 in this category of vehicle with a pretty poor appraisal.
Tim

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fkarim



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This is surprising. I have driven a Velar 3.0 diesel and found it a much more of a driver's car than RRS in responsiveness, agility, handling departments. Even comfort-wise it wasn't bad but certainly not good as RRS. Admittedly I have never driven a Macan or Cayenne so can't compare to those.

I do think Velar pricing is ridiculous for what it is though. Current: MY16 RRS2 3.0 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic, Carpathian Grey & Santorini Black Sliding Pano/Ebony & Ivory 2 Tone
Gone: MY13 RRS 3.0 SDV6 HSE Black Edition, Orkney Grey/Ivory
Gone: MY09 RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSE, Santorini Black/Almond

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RRSman



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timhum wrote:
Autocar have always rated the RRS over the Cayenne and this week in the Velar roadtest rank the RRS 1st against the Cayenne 5th. The Velar doesn't get into the top 5 in this category of vehicle with a pretty poor appraisal.
Tim


Very Strange....for me the Velar is a better drive than both a Cayenne and RRS and I have owned both for over a year at a time Thumbs Up

In 3.0d Guise and HSE Dynamic and above spec there is no competition and the Velar wins hands down as a drivers car. The RRS is way to wafty to be called a sport.

The Velar bashing on here continues Laughing Rolling with laughter 2017 Range Rover Velar First Edition - Corris Grey. Delivered 28/07/2017

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RRSman



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fkarim wrote:
This is surprising. I have driven a Velar 3.0 diesel and found it a much more of a driver's car than RRS in responsiveness, agility, handling departments. Even comfort-wise it wasn't bad but certainly not good as RRS. Admittedly I have never driven a Macan or Cayenne so can't compare to those.

I do think Velar pricing is ridiculous for what it is though.


The Velar pricing will make much more sense when the new RRS is launched. Not looking forward to seeing that price list! 2017 Range Rover Velar First Edition - Corris Grey. Delivered 28/07/2017

Ferrari 458 Italia - Nero Daytona,
Range Rover Sport 3.0d L494 2015 Fuji White, now Sold.
Mercedes C220 AMG Line Automatic - Metallic Black
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fkarim



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Yes, I also think RRS will shoot up in price. That would mark the end or at least a pause in my LR ownership I think. Not necessarily a bad thing as I tried and failed to downsize/downgrade last time and already had that in mind for next change. Or perhaps I will go back to buying used. Plenty of options on the table. Current: MY16 RRS2 3.0 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic, Carpathian Grey & Santorini Black Sliding Pano/Ebony & Ivory 2 Tone
Gone: MY13 RRS 3.0 SDV6 HSE Black Edition, Orkney Grey/Ivory
Gone: MY09 RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSE, Santorini Black/Almond

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RRSman wrote:


The Velar bashing on here continues Laughing Rolling with laughter


Well this IS an RRS forum!

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