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Evo5man



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Recommendations for Winter Wheels & Tyres Setup

Hi there,

I am in my 4th week with my 2013 RRS SDV6 HSE Black Edition and I am loving it. The car is currently running on 20 inch alloys with Continental 275/40 R20 tyres which seem good for a summer setup but not sure how these would perform on winter roads?

The alloys have all been recently refurbished and are still in perfect condition so I want to avoid them being exposed to the winter roads. My plan is to source a set of used alloys in reasonable condition and fit them with winter tyres. It has been suggested to me by a friend that I should be looking for a set of 19 inch alloys and maybe Pirelli winter tyres.

What are you running or what would you recommend?

Thanks,

Steve 2013 SDV6 RRS L320 HSE Black Edition - Orkney Grey with Ivory Interior
2003 Porsche 996 C4S

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RRSTDV8



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A winter tyre from any of the decent makes will do you fine, to be honest. You might need to use a 255/55/19 tyre in order to give you a better choice, however, as 255/50/19 doesn't seem as popular and so is a little limiting.

Vredestein Wintracs used to be the go-to choice but they're a bit old hat now (not even sure if they still make them). I used to run these but the last few winters I've just had All Terrains on all year.

This might help (noting the slightly different tested tyre size):
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2016-...e-Test.htm

I'd be more concerned with wet performance rather than snow performance in the UK. We get so little snow that it's not that important - you just need to drive much slower and more gently. But it will be cold and wet so wet performance is key. 2012 SDV6
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Evo5man



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Hi RRSTDV8,

Thanks for the reply and very helpful info, much appreciated Thumbs Up

So do you think that going from 20" to 19" wheels for winter tyres is a good idea?

Also, do you have any thoughts on M&S winter tyres as apposed to just winter tyres? I had no idea there was a difference, but after doing some research apparently you can get just winter tyres with the Mountain and snow flake symbol or M&S winter tyres that have both the Mountain and snowflake symbol and the M + S logo.

I was thinking that maybe the M&S winter tyres may be better for the occasional muddy off-road use as well?

Any experiences or advice from you or other Forum Members would be much appreciated.

Thanks Thumbs Up

Steve 2013 SDV6 RRS L320 HSE Black Edition - Orkney Grey with Ivory Interior
2003 Porsche 996 C4S

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RRSTDV8



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I run 19in rims all year round but others do swap between 19 and 20 with the seasons.

"Mud and Snow" (M&S) is just a rating determined by the percentage of lands to grooves rather than specific ability. There is no official test for M&S as I understand it. Winter tyres, on the other hand, are tested. You can get winter tyres with M&S because the design has large grooves between blocks.

If you're only doing occasional off road use, I'd stick with a road biased tyre, perhaps an all season. LR use the Scorpion Verde all season and you can get them in 255/55/19 or 275/45/20 but not in RRS "official" 275/40/20 or 255/50/19. 2012 SDV6
2008 TDV8 - it's a labour of love

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Eaters



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I have a set of 4 19 inch genuine LR wheels with good tyres sitting in my garage. I bought them for my 2008 RRS but they don't fit over my Brembos. Bought them to improve the ride and give me a set that would work well in the snow and ice on my trips to Aberdeenshire. Not sure how they'd work on yours but they are for sale if you are interested - originally wanted £550 but they're just cluttering up the place now so you can have them for £525.
You should be able to see a few pictures below and also the link to my earlier post on these. There are more pictures in my gallery

http://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/topic46896.html

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Let me know if you want any more info. Robin
2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8
Awaiting rebuild: NGTF
Gone:
Jaguar S-Type V8 4.2 Sport
MGZTT 190 2.5

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Tim in Scotland



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The other reason to go for 19's in winter tyres is that there is a bigger choice. I had no issues running my TDv8 on its OEM Pirellis all your round for the first year, the next winter I ran with Winter pattern Pirelli Scorpion Ice and Snow 19's, we didn't get a lot of snow but their performance in the wet was very reassuring especially on roads like motorways with deep standing water. 2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, preceeded by a 2.7SE RRS, a 3.6TDv8 RRS, several FFRR's and 2 Evoques.
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW.... my fun car to enjoy bashing and denting 20 years old and still giving loads of fun

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riverblanche



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Hi,
Winter tyres (snowflake marked) work better below 7 degrees due to their compound and thread pattern, sipes,
so you don't need to have snow, the sipes give more grip on ice and the compound more grip on colder roads
and if you have a bit more grip you can stop a bit sooner Whistle
I am more bothered about the slowing than the going Laughing

and have two sets of wheels and tyres for sale AT's and winters, as having a change of sizes all of which are and still will be 19"

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Evo5man



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Hi riverblanche,

Thanks for your reply to my questions, excuse my ignorance but what are "sipes"?

Also, could you PM me more details of the wheels and tyres you have for sale?

Thanks Thumbs Up

Steve 2013 SDV6 RRS L320 HSE Black Edition - Orkney Grey with Ivory Interior
2003 Porsche 996 C4S

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Buckster



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Top wheels Eaters and the correct wheels for the car, i run my 19s on 255/55/19 Goodyear Duratracs. Awesome offroad and Awesome in winter Wink Thumbs Up 2003 BMW M5 - 5 Litres of V8 Optimax Slurping Goodness in Carbon Black

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Eaters



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Hey Riverblanche, in the light of your comment about "snowflake" just had a look at my 19 inch tyres. See image below. Is this the snowflake you are referring to?

Click image to enlarge
 Robin
2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8
Awaiting rebuild: NGTF
Gone:
Jaguar S-Type V8 4.2 Sport
MGZTT 190 2.5

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Col



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Evo5man wrote:
Hi riverblanche,

Thanks for your reply to my questions, excuse my ignorance but what are "sipes"?

Steve


There you go, help give more grip/traction in wet/icy conditions basically.




Cheers
Col

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Evo5man



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Thanks for all the replies Thumbs Up

I started out on this journey knowing nothing about winter wheels and tyres for my RRS, thanks to the forum I now know what wheels I am looking for and some good recommendations on tyres Smile

In summary:

Wheels: 8J x 19 inch with ET (offset) of 53mm PDC 120mm 5 stud

Tyres: Because of the general lack of snow in the UK it is better to focus on wet weather performance and this will also help with off-road performance. Maybe better for me to focus on M&S tyres rather than the winter (snowflake emblem) tyres. Although the combination of both M&S and winter tyres could be a good setup for me.

Thanks everyone Thumbs Up

Forums are just great for this type of question to get some 'real life' feedback.

Regards,

Steve 2013 SDV6 RRS L320 HSE Black Edition - Orkney Grey with Ivory Interior
2003 Porsche 996 C4S

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riverblanche



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Hi,
bit of a late reply Rolling Eyes

Yes the "snow flake" inside the "mountain" indicates a true Winter tyre, from memory the silica content is higher which gives the better grip when cold as well

You can also see the Sipes in Eaters second picture with 3 or 4 in each tread block

Will drop you a PM Steve regarding tyres, think they should still be live adverts on here as well

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RRSTDV8



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Evo5man wrote:


In summary:

Wheels: 8J x 19 inch with ET (offset) of 53mm PDC 120mm 5 stud


9Jx19. The 8Jx19 is the full size spare. 2012 SDV6
2008 TDV8 - it's a labour of love

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Evo5man



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Hi RRSTDV8,

Thanks for correcting my summary Thumbs Up

Just proves what I said about the value of forums, there is a wealth of information out there that we can tap into Bow down

Regards,

Steve 2013 SDV6 RRS L320 HSE Black Edition - Orkney Grey with Ivory Interior
2003 Porsche 996 C4S

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