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garrycol



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Dont forget to check the cam chain etc - if it has broken or become jammed that could be another reason each cam feels different - I have heard that the valves crashing into pistons on one side of the engine and the cam coming to a sudden stop can cause the cam chain or its bits to also fail.

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DerrekL



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Thanks for the replies Thumbs Up much appreciated

Regarding buying a cylinder head of Ebay would I replace both or one, has anyone had to do this before? Thumbs Up RRS 2.7 HSE Stornoway Grey
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Post #532497 Thu Aug 10 2017 11:21am
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Andy K



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You replace the damaged ones.

For example if a valve has bent over it could of

1. Damaged the head (i.e left a mark or gouge)
2. Damaged the valve seat (so it won't seal - seal can be tested by leaving a liquid on top and see if it remains or leaks away)
3, Damaged the bits opening the valve (e.g cam, chain)

So for the sake of £100 you get all that resolved, including the valve, but does not come with chain.

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DerrekL



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Cheers... so a replacement head could be the way to go.

Once this side is fixed, do I go on the assumption that the other side is also knackered? Thumbs Up RRS 2.7 HSE Stornoway Grey
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Andy K



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yeah while its in bits, you need to remove the other head for inspection.

Note the left head is more difficult to remove due to the rear fuel belt and having to cut the plastic away to get to the rear cam clamps

Post #532516 Thu Aug 10 2017 6:44pm
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Disco_Mikey



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Yes, both heads need removed for inspection Thumbs Up

And the LH head is a Censored to get off in situ...

Post #532517 Thu Aug 10 2017 7:04pm
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garrycol



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Andy K wrote:
You replace the damaged ones.

For example if a valve has bent over it could of

1. Damaged the head (i.e left a mark or gouge)
2. Damaged the valve seat (so it won't seal - seal can be tested by leaving a liquid on top and see if it remains or leaks away)
3, Damaged the bits opening the valve (e.g cam, chain)

So for the sake of £100 you get all that resolved, including the valve, but does not come with chain.


I did break off a valve in my old subaru - the valve head bounced around putting dents and gouges in the top of the piston and head - being tight I just replaced the valve and put the head back on - car ran fine for at least another 200,000km until I sold it. Is not recommended but something to consider Confused 07MY RRS TDV6
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Post #532542 Fri Aug 11 2017 3:11am
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DerrekL



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Thanks for replies....

DM, what to look out for taking the LH side off? I am just at the stage where taking the injectors out and the one nearest the back is a Censored to get out, need to take bolts out that sit next to the rear belt to move the water pipe out the way to get the last injector out as I just can't squeeze it past the metal pipe!!!

What else to do next to dismantle LH head?

Cheers Thumbs Up RRS 2.7 HSE Stornoway Grey
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Post #532548 Fri Aug 11 2017 8:09am
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Disco_Mikey



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The rear cam pulley is a Censored
The turbo/manifold is a Censored
The rear injector is a Censored
Cam pulley bolts are bloody tight


It can all be done in situ, but I wouldn't even consider lifting the heads without taking the body off...

Post #532559 Fri Aug 11 2017 9:51am
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DerrekL



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OK not looking too great for me then. I will try to tackle these jobs you listed one at a time DM. Is there any guides on here for these jobs? Thumbs Up RRS 2.7 HSE Stornoway Grey
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Post #532560 Fri Aug 11 2017 10:23am
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Andy K



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I've taken the head off in situ.

Have a read of the rear cambelt procedure on the disco forum. There is a guide
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic53674.html


But basically you need to:

Remove the battery.
Disconnect the wiring loom from behind the battery (refer to cambelt procedure) and move it out the way for improved access.
Remove that top metal water pipe.
Remove rear injector.
Remove the headshields through the wheel arch. This is the worst job, as bolts can only be moved a fraction of a turn. Remember how they go back. Mark um.
Remove EGR all to gain access to exhaust manifold bolts.

I left the cam wheels attached to the cam and took it out as one piece.
Later used a vice to undo, to change the seals

Post #532564 Fri Aug 11 2017 10:54am
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DerrekL



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OK cheers Andy, that will be this weekends to-do list Thumbs Up RRS 2.7 HSE Stornoway Grey
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Post #532570 Fri Aug 11 2017 11:25am
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DerrekL



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slowly getting all the parts off the LH side... however how the Censored does the plastic box (part of the wiring loom I think) come apart that sits directly above the 3rd injector? Thumbs Up RRS 2.7 HSE Stornoway Grey
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Andy K



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Hopefully you have the cambelt guide printed out.
It shows u in there.

A long flat blade screw driver to release the 2 clips from memory?

Once one side out, have a thin screwdriver to hand to put in the hole to stop it jumping back in.

Sort of see the things on the right in this picture

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-DISCO...SwidlZZQ5f


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Post #532588 Fri Aug 11 2017 6:24pm
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abilover



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This is compelling stuff, following this one with great interest. Many thanks to DerrekL for the regular updates. Hope for a satisfactory conclusion Wink

Post #532589 Fri Aug 11 2017 6:27pm
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