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Gerd1986



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Stolen L322's - Key Protection

Had a neighbor come round at my parents place when he saw the car. His car was stolen off the drive at 3am this morning, all caught on camera but it doesn't look like they cared.

They had a key, jumped in and drove it off. It's seems like there has been a massive spike in L322 car thefts in east London/greater London over the last couple of months with 3 that I know of including a forum member on here.

The question I have is if anyone here using a protective box or case to make it harder for they key to be cloned? Can anyone recommend one?

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Yes I have a tin key box for the fob for my L494's keys. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Wrap the key in aluminium foil until you can sort out a shielded pouch. Thumbs Up

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A pouch will not stop your car going missing! Whistle 2003 BMW M5 - 5 Litres of V8 Optimax Slurping Goodness in Carbon Black

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This is a massive problem with all keyless entry vehicles. Something the car manufacturers seem to be ignoring and are hoping will go away. Your remote key emits a very small signal all the time, even when it is in your home. The toerags can buy a signal booster, which boosts the signal coming off your key fob if they are within something like 50 yards of your house, they then transfer this info onto a laptop or handheld device, which then allows them to reprogramme another key, and that is all they need, to then take off in any vehicle they wish. Surprisingly Thatcham (the industries approved security body) hasn't taken this type of theft into account, when classing all vehicles security.
I'd recommend getting a Ghost immobiliser fitted.
And one of these...
http://www.disklokuk.co.uk/?gclid=CLiEhdi02NMCFbcV0woddiUESw


http://autowatch.co.uk/products/autowatch-...st-product

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Gerd1986



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Ghost Autowatch looks very interesting, think I may do some more digging on that.

Make me think though....is this not something that could be programmed using the IID tool. 400 seems a lot for it, although not a lot when you think about the value of the car.

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Buckster wrote:
A pouch will not stop your car going missing! Whistle


No, but the pouch stops them copying the signal being sent by your keys as the pouch shields the signal.

As you say though, any vehicle anywhere in the world with all the technology fitted to it can be taken if they just lift it up and put it on a low loader. Whistle

At least the newer Land Rover's Remote informs you where your car is at any one time, which for Land Rover is quite helpful, for a change Laughing

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I never lock mine with the fob.you could always fit a tracker that needs a separate fob so if they get the keys within 5 minutes of them driving off tracker calls you to see if the car as been stolen or if you've forgot your fob.

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Apparently not. The pouch has also failed with a few cars going missing.

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Lyonhead wrote:
Buckster wrote:
A pouch will not stop your car going missing! Whistle


No, but the pouch stops them copying the signal being sent by your keys as the pouch shields the signal.

As you say though, any vehicle anywhere in the world with all the technology fitted to it can be taken if they just lift it up and put it on a low loader. Whistle

At least the newer Land Rover's Remote informs you where your car is at any one time, which for Land Rover is quite helpful, for a change Laughing


Except you still have to take the key out the pouch to unlock/lock it so the signal is then emitted! So if it can be signal boosted that far then they could be in a parking space next door to you or even the car next to you in the petrol station and they then have what they need! 2003 BMW M5 - 5 Litres of V8 Optimax Slurping Goodness in Carbon Black

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The signal is a rolling code of random numbers, simply capturing the signal does nothing because you cannot guess the next code from the current one. If this is broken then Thatcham should have pulled the certificate for the system.

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Ive got the pouch.

Works a treat. Stood by the car and tried the door handle. Failed to open as you'd hope.

For sure its not the optimal answer, but it's a simple enough solution to a number of scenarios, so why not. RRS 2011. 5L, S/c in Sumatra Black. She's lurvely.

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Should they just go back to a key? Tesla model 3 long range
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Gerd1986



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So I have the car booked in to get a Ghost fitted, does anyone else have one installed.

Does it work as well as they say it does?

I see that it has an app also that you can download so you don't have to put the code in, is this useful?

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Hocks172 wrote:
Should they just go back to a key?


I totally agree,,this would solve the problem.

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