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Tim in Scotland



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2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey
The road test we've all been waiting for?

FFRR S/C LWB Executive (only 4 seats and a smaller boot than standard FFRR and 121000!) versus the F-Pace 3.0ltr S/C (54000) versus the Bentley Bentayga (all 212,000 of it with options). Great test on this week's Grand Tour and rather surprising result (well the Bentley didn't win.............) 2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - a test car before Seeing if I could go to totally Petrol/Diesel free motoring
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Post #516001 Fri Jan 27 2017 4:03pm
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Lyonhead



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Hi Tim, just watched it and the one fact that really stood out was the extras on the Bentley cost as much as the Jaguar car itself Thud Shocked But its still great to see Clarkson is still banging the RR drum Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

Post #516026 Fri Jan 27 2017 7:49pm
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mike21



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Must admit I rather fancied the Jag until the RR went off road and thought - Nah can't beat a RR Thumbs Up 09 TDV6 HSE in Stornoway Grey, 20" alloys, Privacy Glass & Side Steps - Fantastic! but gone
MY12 SDV6 HSE in Orkney Grey, Privacy Glass & Side Steps (notice a theme)! - Even better but now gone
2014 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Atlantic Grey, about to be replaced with 2018 Frost White Outlander PHEV, can't fault em

Post #516040 Fri Jan 27 2017 10:02pm
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Tim in Scotland



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One thing I did notice was that (OK maybe microphones aren't that sensitive) the FFRR and the Jag seemed to be totally silent when not pressing on, but once the loud pedal was pressed they both made as nice a noise as the vastly more expensive and much larger engined Bentley - was also a little surprised that the Bentley was the one that they mentioned needed the fuel stops, the way Hammond drove the F Pace I'm surprised it's smaller tank and harder working engine didn't require a few more refuellings even though it was a fraction of the weight of the Bentley. Maybe "artistic" licence that they just didn't mention refuelling the FFRR or F Pace! 2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - a test car before Seeing if I could go to totally Petrol/Diesel free motoring
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Post #516066 Sat Jan 28 2017 10:09am
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Lyonhead



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I'm not sure about the Jag,but the RR probably had the valve switch off so they were only opening up above 3000/3500 rpm so when cruising it would have been a bit quieter. I agree with the artistic licence, but Clarkson really likes the RR as we could see in the film and as Mike21 said it's off road work was terrific, I doubt the Bentley or Jag would have matched that.
I've sat in a Bentayga, sadly not driven and they are a really nice place to be.... at least your not outside looking at it Shocked and I have been reliably informed they are very very quick when pushed in the higher revs which they should be with close to 600 BHP under your right foot Thumbs Up

Post #516071 Sat Jan 28 2017 10:34am
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Tim in Scotland



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2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

I thought the 5.0S/C FFRR even in SVO special Executive guise didn't have the exhaust switch, way too uncivilized for a FFRR Mr. Green 2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - a test car before Seeing if I could go to totally Petrol/Diesel free motoring
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Post #516075 Sat Jan 28 2017 11:20am
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Lyonhead



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Ha ha Laughing Laughing , maybe your right there. What has got me confused but no doubt someone will be able to explain, the car Clarkson was driving, VF15JYG, is registered as an SVA Autobiography but 510bhp Question Question
On the RR website the 510bhp can be available with Autobiography but not SVA
The 550bhp is the engine thats available in the SVA
Something doesn't tie up there Shocked

Post #516077 Sat Jan 28 2017 11:41am
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SRE



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Thought I would add Episode 12 of the Grand Tour Thumbs Up In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Down and out's Velar
In UK - Not saying, but its NOT a Muddy Milk Float.
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Post #516078 Sat Jan 28 2017 11:46am
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SRE



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I will admit, I quite fancy the F Pace, especially as my Sport is out of Land Rover Dealer Warranty in August. Maybe have to keep a closer eye on the to exchange rate. Big Cry In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Down and out's Velar
In UK - Not saying, but its NOT a Muddy Milk Float.
Gone - Several Lode Lane vehicles
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Post #516079 Sat Jan 28 2017 11:48am
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 30 May 2005
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2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

I've looked down that route and once you try to bring the F Pace optional gear up to the same standard spec of the RRS you are getting very close to an RRS L494 HSE's price. The F Pace is RWD most of the time only allowing something like 5o% of the drive to the fronts when the computer thinks it is necessary, so it isn't really even as sophisticated as a DiscoSport or Evoque in the transmission dept. Having said that it didn't appear to lack anything in the grip department in that quarry where the had the "off-road" race. 2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - a test car before Seeing if I could go to totally Petrol/Diesel free motoring
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Post #516092 Sat Jan 28 2017 1:28pm
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SRE



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I agree Tim, base price is always attractive, but it's never the vehicle you want Big Cry In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Down and out's Velar
In UK - Not saying, but its NOT a Muddy Milk Float.
Gone - Several Lode Lane vehicles
- Beta User

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