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marsh23



Member Since: 01 Mar 2018
Location: wiltshire
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

This happened to me this recently and just like above, i too have replaced the coolant temp sensor, but it makes no difference. i still have to spray hot water over the sensor for about 10 seconds or so to warm it up and then the car fires up instantly. This ONLY happens when the outside temp is below freezing. Has anyone actually overcome this problem ?

Post #567837 Mon Oct 29 2018 11:49am
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Tony666



Member Since: 26 Jul 2011
Location: Barry
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2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Bonatti Grey

Well I’ve just had the same problem, car wouldn’t start, suspected glow plugs but warming this sensor did the trick....any ideas for a permanent fix? Many thanks to Marsh 23 for getting me out of trouble 👍

Post #572380 Fri Jan 04 2019 12:00pm
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Lindab



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Just a guess, but could you not insulate the sensor with bubble wrap or a bit of tube lagging you put over water pipes. May save you pulling off the engine cover. I don't have this model so may be talking a load of rubbish but worth a try

Post #572385 Fri Jan 04 2019 12:34pm
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Tony666



Member Since: 26 Jul 2011
Location: Barry
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2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Bonatti Grey

Not a bad idea maybe, I'll give it a try. I do wonder though, why would the temp reading from this sensor prevent the car from starting. With my very limited mechanical knowledge I'm assuming that the sensor is reporting a cold coolant temperature, which maybe requires something else to take place in order for the engine to fire up? i.e. additional warming from the glow plugs? Warming the sensor with hot water fools the sensor to report 'normal' temperatures and the car starts up but is that having a negative impact on something else?

Few extra points:
Never had a problem starting previously, fired straight up, even in snow after standing unused for months
Battery is strong and only a few months old
Once started the car runs like a dream
When turning over trying to start there are clouds of white fumes from the exhaust

Initially thought it would be the glow plugs but now not so sure.........Any clever people out there??

Post #572399 Fri Jan 04 2019 5:19pm
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Tony666



Member Since: 26 Jul 2011
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2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Bonatti Grey

So I've been digging into this problem on the D3 site, it seems the sensor I was referring to is known as the ECT (Engine Coolant Temperature) sensor, and feeds temperature information to the ECU that controls the glow plugs. The glow plugs have three modes of operation, pre-cranking, cranking and afterglow (I think!). By warming the ECT sensor, the ECU operates the glowplugs differently (I'm assuming eliminating the pre-cranking stage?), as it thinks the ambient temperature is higher than it actually is.

Is anyone able to throw some light onto whether this can cause any damage to the vehicle and also why the car will start without the pre-heat, but not with?

With previous cars I'd have just replaced the glow plugs, but it seems that's one hell of a job on the D3/RRS, so would like to avoid unless absolutely necessary.

Post #572434 Fri Jan 04 2019 11:26pm
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Brit Plumber



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England 2012 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Autobiography Fuji White

The clouds of white smoke will be vapourised diesal fuel and is a sympton of a car that hasn’t fired up. Rather than concentrating on glow plugs, you may want to broaden your thought process unless you have fault codes pointing to glow plugs. I was thinking it may be an air issue, if the coolant sensor is warmed, does it tell the ECU to allow more air in at start rather than perhaps nothing (when it should be choked). 2012 5.0 SC AB
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Post #572438 Sat Jan 05 2019 10:08am
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Brit Plumber



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England 2012 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Autobiography Fuji White

Quote from another thread.

‘ECU coolant temp sensor does effect the fuelling, timing and glow plug operation. When it detects the engine cold the signal from it tells the ECU to retard injection, sets rich fuel for start and fast tickover, lets the glow plugs function. When the engine reaches a certain temperature the ECU switches off the cold start functions according to the signal from the temp sensor’

Perhaps ECU is getting the cold settings wrong. 2012 5.0 SC AB
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Post #572440 Sat Jan 05 2019 10:17am
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Tony666



Member Since: 26 Jul 2011
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2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Bonatti Grey

Cheers, useful stuff. I think the first thing I'll do is check the current draw on each glow plug, as this seems to be a relatively straight forward test, and take it from there......

Post #572513 Sun Jan 06 2019 7:41pm
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Niclas79



Member Since: 17 Jan 2021
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And where is this sensor on a tdv8? Cant find mine...

Post #608754 Sun Jan 17 2021 6:06pm
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