Trust me this was a LOT closer to a collision than it looks in the dashcam clip - (about 10 seconds in - don't bother with the rest)



Played this back a few times and I don't see any indicator until she has already swerved into my path. Thank the Lord for fourpot Brembos

Seems to me this 'not indicating until it is too late' is getting worse and usually seems to be at roundabouts (or foreign lorries on the motorway) 2008 MY Java Black TDV8 HSE


Last edited by Paddi on Tue Sep 01 2015 8:57pm. Edited 2 times in total

I would go with hers you can only give way to right if you know there coming , what cam you using does it record automatically on every journey. I like the idea of one but want an install and forget setup unless you need the footage

Cheers friend

I've noticed recently that particularly on cars with clear indicator lenses and orange bulbs in some light conditions the indicator doesn't show up too well.

My camera is a very inexpensive Mini 0801 hard wired in to the overhead console so that it starts up when 'ignition' is on. 2008 MY Java Black TDV8 HSE

If you look carefully, the indicator on the Focus flashes 3 times before it even makes it to the line entering the roundabout.

Though why they went over the roundabout, and didn't go around it is anyone's guess

she's clearly indicating. The fact you are asking means you probably need to get some glasses  2006 RRS Supercharged 4.2 HST muthuaflecka!

your fault mate, sorry to say
she is clearly indicating as she approaches


eye test me thinks

Wonder if she had a camera and is currently on the focus forum.....

Fair enough then

I have some varifocal glasses that I had made for driving (and was wearing them) . Just checked outside and I can easily read a reg plate at over 100 feet even without my goggles - but I'm getting a re-test anyway now! 2008 MY Java Black TDV8 HSE

Yes, your "fault", Paddi, I believe. The way I always handle these irritating mini roundabouts is to think about who's wheels get to the give way line first... in which case they should have right of way, no matter what. Fortunately, you were both travelling at a sensible speed so any misunderstandings in the other's intent required little more than a firm dab on the stoppers, no harm done, happens all the time. L405 P400e Autobiography (MY2020)... Silicon Silver / Espresso
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I don't believe it was actually Paddi's fault, if both drivers had gone around the roundabout there would not have been a problem. She actually broke the law by turning right across the actual roundabout. I've read about motorists in Derbyshire being fined and given points for not going round the mini-roundabout.

Quote:

Highway code 188

Mini-roundabouts. Approach these in the same way as normal roundabouts. All vehicles MUST pass round the central markings except large vehicles which are physically incapable of doing so. Remember, there is less space to manoeuvre and less time to signal. Avoid making U-turns at mini-roundabouts. Beware of others doing this.
Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10(1) & 16(1)

No doubt insurance would go knock for knock if there had been an accident / claim

Thanks, WOODY179, just goes to show I should re-read the Highway Code. I am pretty bad for arrogantly driving over the top of this little white pimples in my Sport! L405 P400e Autobiography (MY2020)... Silicon Silver / Espresso
RRS TDV6 HSE Lux (MY2011)... Nara Bronze / Arabica - now gone!

Hi Paddi.
Sorry I have to say you are totally at fault according to the Highway Code and DSA Driver Manual. Vehicles coming towards you may want to turn right, giveaway to them. Be sure any vehicle on the roundabout is going to leave it before you join it. The Focus is guilty of not passing round the central markings of the roundabout.

The way I see it is::

The focus shows a right signal on approach to the roundabout. Very difficult to spot due to poor driving conditions so you should approach with caution. You assumed the Focus was going ahead, Never assume.
The Focus was well over the line facing the direction they intended going before you got to the roundabout. The positioning of the Focus on the approach tells me they intend turning right. Although the Focus cut the roundabout, I honestly feel they did you a favour. Had they attempted to go around the central markings they would possibly have gone into the side of you had you entered the roundabout further.

Sorry I know it's not what you wanted to hear from a fellow RRS Owner.
Frank DSA ADI Avanced Driving Insructor.

What drives me mad is these 4-way mini roundabouts that are springing up everywhere. Stupid and dangerous...  Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
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Am I right in thinking that although the Fiesta was supposed to indicate it doesn't actually make any difference if they do or not. She had right of way regardless of whether she indicated. Correct?