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shmoogle



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Singletrack



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Belgium 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black
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Dear CV - The 6 ton DIY axle stands worked beautifully. Wink

In the removal of the factory exhaust, the second hanger is one hell of a b*tch to get off - not sure what worked...WD40 or silicone spray, but mostly lots of swearing and elbow grease.



Once you get the factory exhaust off...which even with just 800km on the car, was not easy - thank God my wife decided I looked pitiful under there and crawled under to help (What a girl! Very Happy ) then you're back to the heartache of getting that second from the front hanger onto the new system. Past that, fitting the other bits is easy and miraculously...it all lines up nicely.

I then took it out for a quick drive to be sure nothing banged anywhere - which it does not Very Happy

The final reward of course is that lovely V8-like burble when the engine is running. Very Happy Very Happy 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE, Java/Ebony/Cherry, Privacy, Sunroof, PTI, Premium Sound, SatNav, Cold Climate, Tow kit, CarStyle coded grill and vents, Tasmods, Stormers, JE Exhaust, Autobiography badge

Post #58730 Fri Sep 29 2006 4:54pm
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Love the picture singletrack, but where are the tetrapack cartons ?? Very Happy

I am very glad it all went on quite easily once we sent you the right bits Embarassed , and thanks for the favourable report.

Would you like another system to decorate the hall ?? Razz

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Singletrack



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Thanks JE - It really is lovely and beautifully put together. Don't need another one though...I have this slightly used one for now which is heading to eBay... 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE, Java/Ebony/Cherry, Privacy, Sunroof, PTI, Premium Sound, SatNav, Cold Climate, Tow kit, CarStyle coded grill and vents, Tasmods, Stormers, JE Exhaust, Autobiography badge

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Singletrack, Welcome to the club. It really does sound good Wink TDV6 - gone
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Singletrack



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shmoogle wrote:
Nice shoes, Singletrack! Very Happy


Embarassed Embarassed Oh Yeah...those old Tod's I just can't seem to throw out to my wife's considerable embarrassment... Rolling Eyes 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE, Java/Ebony/Cherry, Privacy, Sunroof, PTI, Premium Sound, SatNav, Cold Climate, Tow kit, CarStyle coded grill and vents, Tasmods, Stormers, JE Exhaust, Autobiography badge

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Well done singletrack. Certainly looked nice and shiny in the hall. I know it is probably early days but from the sweet sound have you noticed any improvement in performance? What size is it from the central muffler back?

Cheers....Wayne 2006 RRS TDV6, Java/Alpaca, Dynamic Response Pack, Tow Pack, Head and Tail light protectors, 20" Stormers, Roof Rails, S/C Grill and Side Vents, Tasmods. AutoLogic mod.
1988 RR Highline, 3.5 EFI Arctic White, ARB Bullbar, Roof Rails, 15" Alloys, Front and Rear light Grilles, Side steps. (Still going strong)

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Compuway



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Australia 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

JE you have a PM

Cheers....Wayne 2006 RRS TDV6, Java/Alpaca, Dynamic Response Pack, Tow Pack, Head and Tail light protectors, 20" Stormers, Roof Rails, S/C Grill and Side Vents, Tasmods. AutoLogic mod.
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Post #59106 Sun Oct 01 2006 3:59am
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Singletrack



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Compuway wrote:
What size is it from the central muffler back?



Good question, had to get out the calipers I use to measure bicycle head tubes for that one. The stock exhaust has a 41mm (outside) tubing after the resonator. The JE exhaust has 54mm tubing. In sections, it also appears to be mandrel bent - I'm not sure, but the factory exhaust has a visible seam and may well be crush bent. Finally, on the factory system, there is a very large, main resonator followed by two small mufflers just before the point where the exhaust exits (easy enough to see...) - the JE exhaust only has a single resonator, smaller than the factory unit and judging from having peered into it, almost straight through.

All these elements contribute to a less retrictive flow of exhaust gases.

Hard to detect changes in performance yet...but I find that the sluggishness off the mark with the TDV6 has more to do with the gearing of the automatic tranny (when in "regular mode") than with the willingness or responsiveness of the engine. In the end, turbo lag is probably the real enemy. Oh yeah...and weight. 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE, Java/Ebony/Cherry, Privacy, Sunroof, PTI, Premium Sound, SatNav, Cold Climate, Tow kit, CarStyle coded grill and vents, Tasmods, Stormers, JE Exhaust, Autobiography badge

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Compuway



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Thanks for that singletrack.
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As you say the resonator is rather large and I can imagine full of S#%t to comply with strict noise and emission standards. I have only been under my car a couple of times and by the look of it I thought my exhaust from the resonator back was already 2-1/4", but I could be wrong. I will measure it when I get back onshore. I would think the replacement of the resonator with a hi-flow one and then straight out to two tail pipes would allow a much smoother flow through the exhaust. (And obviously give it a much sweeter sound.)

I have PM'd JE for some details but the killer may be getting them downunder. You say the system arrived in a number of pieces. How big was the packaging?

I very rarely drive in regular auto mode. I have found I get not only better responsiveness but also better economy in sports mode or manual. Unfortunately the only real way to eliminate turbo lag is by fitting a larger turbo. From talking to a number of people I believe an ECU remap can assist with turbo lag but will not eliminate it down low.

Cheers.....Wayne 2006 RRS TDV6, Java/Alpaca, Dynamic Response Pack, Tow Pack, Head and Tail light protectors, 20" Stormers, Roof Rails, S/C Grill and Side Vents, Tasmods. AutoLogic mod.
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Post #59213 Sun Oct 01 2006 12:57pm
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Compuway,

The re-map significantly reduces the turbo lag, but fitting a larger turbo will make it worse not better. A larger turbo needs more exhaust gases flowing through it before it starts to produce boost, but will typically produce more power higher up the rev range.
I have the same exhaust as Singletrack and the re-map.

Paul

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Singletrack



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Compuway wrote:
I have only been under my car a couple of times and by the look of it I thought my exhaust from the resonator back was already 2-1/4", but I could be wrong. I will measure it when I get back onshore.

How big was the packaging?

I very rarely drive in regular auto mode. I have found I get not only better responsiveness but also better economy in sports mode or manual.


The pipe from the catalyst is at least 54mm - but after the stock muffler, it is definitely smaller and by my measurement 41mm. The JE/Larini pipes are larger. As I still have the box (cardboard day is this Tuesday) I have measured it for you - 130cm tall by 43cm wide and 58cm deep. Big Shocked

I have little doubt that JE would double check the contents before shipping it to Oz so that you don't have two right bits when you should have a left and a right.

I was out today driving about in sport mode and manual - and agree, it's a more pleasant drive - in "American" mode, you press on the accelerator and then wait... Confused

One final word on the exhaust - as a driver, you will notice the sound outside when the car is idling, but what you may not hear is the sound heard by a bystander - that is very sweet! Very V8! 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE, Java/Ebony/Cherry, Privacy, Sunroof, PTI, Premium Sound, SatNav, Cold Climate, Tow kit, CarStyle coded grill and vents, Tasmods, Stormers, JE Exhaust, Autobiography badge

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Thanks very much for all the measuring and stuff Singletrack, much appreciated. Thumbs Up

As i've said I have emailed JE to get a quote to get it sent here. Will be interesting to see if it works out viable. As you say I am sure they would check it has a left and a right side before sending it right around the world. Embarassed I have been to a number of exhaust and performance specialists here in Perth and the price varies quite considerably from the reasonable to the ridiculous. My only concern here is that nobody is familiar with working on the RRS. Having a good look under there it is pretty tight and you wouldn't want anything not fitting snug especially when you are out in the bush with all that suspension movement.

Yes Paul I suspected that with the turbo. I have been in touch with Chris (LRtuning) and have spoken to him about venturing west for a group chipping session. Still trying to get the final numbers and work out an appropriate timing etc. The dual solution of exhaust and ECU upgrade sounds like the way to go. I would have thought a larger free-flowing exhaust would have given a tangible performance increase but I suppose it is pretty difficult to quantify unless dyno'd.

Anyway guys thanks again for the info. As usual this forum is a fantastic resource for all RRS owners wherever they are. Thumbs Up

Cheers....Wayne 2006 RRS TDV6, Java/Alpaca, Dynamic Response Pack, Tow Pack, Head and Tail light protectors, 20" Stormers, Roof Rails, S/C Grill and Side Vents, Tasmods. AutoLogic mod.
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