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flack



Member Since: 24 Feb 2013
Location: Preston
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I have replaced a couple of ecu's for the air system on D3's including my own and the second hand ecu's where from RRS's . I have only had to recalibrate two of them as some ecu's seem less tolerant to how far out the reading's are for the four corners.

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Post #423945 Sun May 11 2014 3:04pm
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daveyc



Member Since: 09 May 2014
Location: Liverpool / Spain
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Siberian Silver

Did the same fault show on yours or the ones you have replaced as mine , am I looking in the right area ? , also pointers for a code reader that's not too heavy on the pocket thx 2006 Hst 4.2 Supercharged , Angel eyes , 2010 rear led lights , indicator / courtesy wing mirror leds, Khan 21" Diamond edition split rims, full spec (running LPG £0.60 per ltr)
2007 2.7 v6 Chrysler Sebring convert sport
2006 SRT8 6.1 ltr petrol 300 Chrysler gone
2005 X5 3.0d sport gone
2001 BMW 330 ci ltd edition mtec gone

Post #423951 Sun May 11 2014 3:55pm
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Disco_Mikey



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport Supercharged HSE Santorini Black

The Bluetooth IIDTool gets my vote Thumbs Up

Post #423978 Sun May 11 2014 7:43pm
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PatGapInnov



Member Since: 30 Jul 2012
Location: Montreal
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Hi Guys

This fault code “control module”, does not necessarily mean that the control module is defective. If the system is not in customer mode (tight tolerance for example), this fault will register. Before replacing the ECU, we suggest proceeding with the following:

-Make sure the system is not in tight tolerance mode
-Re-flash the ECU with the latest available firmware. This one may contain additional internal diagnostic procedures which may register a fault that will help you move further.

When replacing the suspension ECU, sensors or any other related parts, it is imperative to recalibrate the height sensors. This will ensure optimal performance of the system, drivability and comfort. It will also prevent unnecessary stress on other suspension parts that will try to compensate (sway bar for example) for the bad calibration. The system cannot detect a bad calibration unless it is so bad that it cannot regulate the vehicle height within a respectable limit (a flat and leveled surface is pretty much nonexistent in real world conditions). In this case, you will get the “cross articulation” fault code.

Cheers

Post #424159 Tue May 13 2014 3:21pm
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daveyc



Member Since: 09 May 2014
Location: Liverpool / Spain
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Siberian Silver

Hi why would I need to flash the ecu with the latest firmware if the unit wasn't defective why would it show a fault now ? , also would the firmware flash be available to me or is this just a main dealer job , (go gentle im a noob to RRS) thx Dave 2006 Hst 4.2 Supercharged , Angel eyes , 2010 rear led lights , indicator / courtesy wing mirror leds, Khan 21" Diamond edition split rims, full spec (running LPG £0.60 per ltr)
2007 2.7 v6 Chrysler Sebring convert sport
2006 SRT8 6.1 ltr petrol 300 Chrysler gone
2005 X5 3.0d sport gone
2001 BMW 330 ci ltd edition mtec gone

Post #424172 Tue May 13 2014 4:38pm
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PatGapInnov



Member Since: 30 Jul 2012
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Hi Dave

When a manufacturer does a software revision for an ECU, it can add new fault codes and diagnostic procedures related to issues that have been reported in the field. If your issue is related to one of these new additions, it will register a fault and help you find the problem. It may not help in your case but it's simply a logical way to proceed. Many ECU’s are replaced while they are not defective because of an incorrect diagnostic in the beginning, following these rules will help avoid this.

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also would the firmware flash be available to me or is this just a main dealer job , (go gentle im a noob to RRS) thx Dave


The IIDTool and a few other diagnostic tools will allow you to re-flash or recalibrate the suspension ECU. Also there are guys like Mike and Flack that can do it for you if you are close to them. If in the end it is confirmed that the ECU is defective, you will need to proceed with a calibration and re-flashing if the replacement ECU is new. If it is used, it may only need a sensor calibration if the correct firmware is already installed.

Cheers http://www.gap-diagnostic.com/

Post #424186 Tue May 13 2014 5:43pm
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daveyc



Member Since: 09 May 2014
Location: Liverpool / Spain
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Siberian Silver

Hi problem for me is I live in Spain and not involved with any people out her in the RRS scene I hardly speak the lingo also don't want to take it to the stealers as everything in mañana here even the simply things in life so could get very long and expensive , so was going to tackle as much of it myself I have a good knowledge of electronics and computers so really hoping I may be able to gain the knowledge from forums and sound advice from fellow members just need my own IId tool I think so I can progress , and at the moment it doesn't seem to affecting anything except the warning light , im wondering if the car had never had use of the ride height adjustments before it only had 29,000 on a 2006 might have been a school run bus but when I got it I was checking different controls out and was using the access height so wondering if I have something stuck that had not been used before possible a sensor etc. .... any help from any member would be appreciated 2006 Hst 4.2 Supercharged , Angel eyes , 2010 rear led lights , indicator / courtesy wing mirror leds, Khan 21" Diamond edition split rims, full spec (running LPG £0.60 per ltr)
2007 2.7 v6 Chrysler Sebring convert sport
2006 SRT8 6.1 ltr petrol 300 Chrysler gone
2005 X5 3.0d sport gone
2001 BMW 330 ci ltd edition mtec gone

Post #424193 Tue May 13 2014 6:02pm
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PatGapInnov



Member Since: 30 Jul 2012
Location: Montreal
Posts: 42

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Hi Dave

The forums are definitely a good place to start, you can also try on disco3.co.uk since both vehicles share the same electronics.

If you do decide to purchase an IIDTool, drop us a line at GAPTeam AT gap-diagnostic.com and we will assist you with finding the issue. Since you are knowledgeable in electronics, it shouldn’t be too hard to fix this yourself.

Cheers http://www.gap-diagnostic.com/

Post #424201 Tue May 13 2014 6:47pm
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daveyc



Member Since: 09 May 2014
Location: Liverpool / Spain
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Siberian Silver

Thank you very much yes will be buying IID tool at end of the month .. 2006 Hst 4.2 Supercharged , Angel eyes , 2010 rear led lights , indicator / courtesy wing mirror leds, Khan 21" Diamond edition split rims, full spec (running LPG £0.60 per ltr)
2007 2.7 v6 Chrysler Sebring convert sport
2006 SRT8 6.1 ltr petrol 300 Chrysler gone
2005 X5 3.0d sport gone
2001 BMW 330 ci ltd edition mtec gone

Post #424259 Wed May 14 2014 12:16pm
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daveyc



Member Since: 09 May 2014
Location: Liverpool / Spain
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Siberian Silver

Hi folks right just got my ID tool so will get stuck in at the week end and put the results on here & hope fully get some answers thx Dave 2006 Hst 4.2 Supercharged , Angel eyes , 2010 rear led lights , indicator / courtesy wing mirror leds, Khan 21" Diamond edition split rims, full spec (running LPG £0.60 per ltr)
2007 2.7 v6 Chrysler Sebring convert sport
2006 SRT8 6.1 ltr petrol 300 Chrysler gone
2005 X5 3.0d sport gone
2001 BMW 330 ci ltd edition mtec gone

Post #426354 Thu Jun 05 2014 1:48pm
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PatGapInnov



Member Since: 30 Jul 2012
Location: Montreal
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Canada 

Thumbs Up http://www.gap-diagnostic.com/

Post #426426 Fri Jun 06 2014 3:34pm
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daveyc



Member Since: 09 May 2014
Location: Liverpool / Spain
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Siberian Silver

Ok so the IID Tool is here just read the faults tried to clear them but they are permanent here is the read out
BCM-Body Control

B1B02-Low frequency coil
B1BA0-66 (2F) Unknown
B1C57 Passive start ignition relay coil circuit

Any thoughts before I start buying bits
ps totally different read outs from the local mechanic but I think I will go with the IID Tool Confused 2006 Hst 4.2 Supercharged , Angel eyes , 2010 rear led lights , indicator / courtesy wing mirror leds, Khan 21" Diamond edition split rims, full spec (running LPG £0.60 per ltr)
2007 2.7 v6 Chrysler Sebring convert sport
2006 SRT8 6.1 ltr petrol 300 Chrysler gone
2005 X5 3.0d sport gone
2001 BMW 330 ci ltd edition mtec gone

Post #426445 Fri Jun 06 2014 5:30pm
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PatGapInnov



Member Since: 30 Jul 2012
Location: Montreal
Posts: 42

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Email sent... http://www.gap-diagnostic.com/

Post #426449 Fri Jun 06 2014 5:41pm
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daveyc



Member Since: 09 May 2014
Location: Liverpool / Spain
Posts: 56

United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Siberian Silver

Ok I been told that these faults are nothing to do with the amber suspension light leaning when cornering faults so here is a full read out of all ecu's im lost now

VIN: SALLSAA336A916992
Vehicule scanned on 06-06-2014 18:52
Using IIDTool+BLE

AAM-Audio Amplifier

U3000 Control module
ACM-Audio System

U1A03 Vehicle configuration parameter
BCM-Body Control

B1B02-Low frequency coil
B1BA0-66 (2F) Unknown
B1C57 Passive start ignition relay coil circuit
U0155-Lost communication with instrument cluster control module
IPC-Instrument Pack

U0182-Lost communication with front lighting control module
U0159-Lost communication with parking assist control module
TMC-Traffic Message

B1A56 Antenna circuit
help Big Cry 2006 Hst 4.2 Supercharged , Angel eyes , 2010 rear led lights , indicator / courtesy wing mirror leds, Khan 21" Diamond edition split rims, full spec (running LPG £0.60 per ltr)
2007 2.7 v6 Chrysler Sebring convert sport
2006 SRT8 6.1 ltr petrol 300 Chrysler gone
2005 X5 3.0d sport gone
2001 BMW 330 ci ltd edition mtec gone

Post #426453 Fri Jun 06 2014 5:59pm
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daveyc



Member Since: 09 May 2014
Location: Liverpool / Spain
Posts: 56

United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Siberian Silver

Update the fault which initially thought to be the suspension is actually the ARC module not the suspension .
after inspection there was water damage on the pcb this would back up the intermitting fault state at the beginning also sign s of water around this area , this module is located drivers side kick panel the air suspension ecu is above it , so don't get confused , will update when new ecu arrives , this ecu is not in the v2 firmware for the IIDTool but I believe it will be released soon , also a big thank to GAP for there assistance as I was hitting a brick wall without them .



 2006 Hst 4.2 Supercharged , Angel eyes , 2010 rear led lights , indicator / courtesy wing mirror leds, Khan 21" Diamond edition split rims, full spec (running LPG £0.60 per ltr)
2007 2.7 v6 Chrysler Sebring convert sport
2006 SRT8 6.1 ltr petrol 300 Chrysler gone
2005 X5 3.0d sport gone
2001 BMW 330 ci ltd edition mtec gone

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