Where are the pics of this black one you guys are mentioning? Matt
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byron wrote:

Had it been rough weather during transport, which made the car roll so much inside the ship and assuming the same thing would have happened to all the rest of the cars, I think that there would have been such a weight shift inside the ship, it most probably would have sunk

Didn't they cut the ship into pieces using the industrial equivalent of a cheese wire? I remeber seeing a cross section of the hull and all the cars inside sliced into 2. RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSE Zambezi silver,Alpaca.
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Looks like a high speed roll, off road, probably downhill on a sand dune. As I understand speed on sand is the way to do it.
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Yes VA, they did and cut it into 4000t sections to remove it in bits on barges. Believe it or not during recovery ops 4 ships ran into the wreck despite there being a huge floodlight barge and 2 monster floating cranes as well as myriad radar transponder equipped buoys and the coastguards in the UK and France asking every ship that went through the region if they were aware of the wreck and to keep clear! Every body I heard respond answered yes...... so you wonder how so many ships ran into it! A Carbon Footprint is the mark a lump of coal makes when it's dropped on the ground.

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Josh wrote:

Looks like a high speed roll, off road, probably downhill on a sand dune. As I understand speed on sand is the way to do it.
The interesting factor is that they have all been S/C's so far. Must be something to be said for slow and quiet diesels

Tim in Scotland wrote:

Believe it or not during recovery ops 4 ships ran into the wreck despite there being a huge floodlight barge and 2 monster floating cranes as well as myriad radar transponder equipped buoys and the coastguards in the UK and France asking every ship that went through the region if they were aware of the wreck and to keep clear! Every body I heard respond answered yes...... so you wonder how so many ships ran into it!

VA, the ships that I sail on are so big that and fast and create a large wash at speed that we were requested to slow down to below 28knots when going passed so the wash didn't cause problems for the barges and divers. The furthest off the wreck we could pass was 2 miles............... due to traffic lane width restrictions. BTW a "narrow" lane for us is something less than 2 miles wide and not less than 20m deep!  A Carbon Footprint is the mark a lump of coal makes when it's dropped on the ground.

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Just think if the lanes on the M25 were that big... it'd still be a carpark at 8am!!  

Tim in Scotland wrote:

VA, the ships that I sail on are so big that and fast and create a large wash at speed that we were requested to slow down to below 28knots when going passed so the wash didn't cause problems for the barges and divers. The furthest off the wreck we could pass was 2 miles............... due to traffic lane width restrictions. BTW a "narrow" lane for us is something less than 2 miles wide and not less than 20m deep!

VA - you trying to get me rattled or what? I'm on holiday so don't get me started about sail's right of way over steam (it isn't true all the time BTW!).

I sail too and get really cheesed off with yotties in the club bar who think everything on the ocean has to give way to them - and the racing guys are the worst! They and their 1-2m draft.............. I have 14m of ship underneath the water and in many places in the Channel at low tide I have less than 1m of water under the keel and cannot get out of the way when they can!! They wouldn't even think of anchoring in water that shallow.............. I have to do 28knots in that depth and I can assure you it does some weird things to the steering.

And before you ask, yes I have run one over - in the Solent when despite the safety boat that preceeds us up to Prince Consort and the Brambles channels trying to push the twat out of the way he still wouldn't budge. To get round the bends at Calshot I have to pass Cowes at 23 knots then stop the engine and let the momentum carry the ship round the bends. We cannot stop easily once we are committed to that route! Best moto when in the Channel is if you can see a ship, work on the fact that they probably haven't seen you as you are such a tiny spec on the ocean, and you keep out of their way. The boat owner above was procecuted and fined heavily for endangering safety of life at sea - not only did he risk the lives of the crew of his own boat but the 18 people on my ship. A Carbon Footprint is the mark a lump of coal makes when it's dropped on the ground.

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Surely.. If you're bigger, then you have the right of way?
Thats the way it should work..

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I remember watching a Keith Floyd programme once years ago on telly where he was in India I think it was and was being transported from A to B on one of those little motorised tuk-tuk things through the mad traffic. Looked like one of the scariest journeys you'd ever take and open to the air as well... And I thought it was bad circumnavigating the Place de la Concorde in Paris in the secure confines of a car!