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mywillia



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Problems with hesitation at speed

This is my first post and I would appreciate some help before I go off on a rant to my dealer.

I've got a 2010MY 3.0 TDV6 HSE with 3000k miles on the clock. I noticed a problem a few weeks ago that seems to be getting progressively worse.
When cruising at motorway speeds the engine seems to hesitate and then recover almost like a misfire. It does this constantly which makes for very jerky journeys. It is far more noticeable going downhill, doesn't matter how steep the incline, if it's not flat, the problem is more apparent. It gets worse the further beyond 70mph you go.

Being new to LR I thought when I first noticed the problem that it may be "normal" but surely not. It feels like a misfueling or injector issue to me.

Any ideas?

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Probably sticking EGR Valves. 2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
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Very Annoyed wrote:
Probably sticking EGR Valves.


Even in a practically new TDV6?

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Yes - if this is the problem this seems to happen more to new vehicles than older ones. 2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
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Yep, Sounds like EGR Valves alright.
Take it to the dealer M8 - They will hook up
diagnostics that can tell straightaway if the EGR
valves are sticking.

This is a common problem accross all manufacturers,
not just LR. These EGR valves a complete pain in the
A Censored . You can just have them blanked off
but I'm not sure if that may then make the car fail
an emissions test later in it's life - Someone more
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Thanks for the responses

I guess I'll give the dealer a call in the morning and get it booked in.

Can anyone recommend a dealers in West Yorkshire who know what they're doing. If the service is anything like the sales at my local dealership I'd be better giving them a miss.

The sales rep told me point blank that Park Heating wasn't available on RRS only available on RR!

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If you mean getting the FBH working whilst rest of the car is asleep yes you can on the pre 2009MY - more than likely you still can on the 2010MY. This is however not a LR fit and is done by 3rd party techs two of which are sponsors of the forum. 2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
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Try sponsors Rocar Moores Thumbs Up

I have always had good service from Armstrong Massey, York, And though I have never used them Try Farnells at Guisley, might be a little closure to you and I hear very reports about them too


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The brochure states:-

"Remote Park Heat, which can be operated from the remote key fob or through a timer on theTouchscreen, is available on the LR-TDV6 and LR-TDV8 engines. It works by pre-heating the engine and then channelling residual heat into the cabin. The vehicle warms up while you're getting ready to leave the house, allowing you to set off quickly and comfortably, in even the coldest conditions"

I don't have it fitted so I get a message in cold weather "Timed Heating not available"

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It is an optional extra on 2010 cars and you have to tick the box when you order the car. As VA stated above you can get an aftermarket systems that works with your FBH that is fitted for cold weather emissions and to speed up the cabin warm-up when the outside temperature is less than +5c. The high carbon content engineblocks used by Land Rover for their car engines makes them very thermally efficient and it takes an age for it to get warm enough to blow warm air into the cabin in cold weather, hence the FBH. Webasto makes a remote control system but it cannot be programmed into the car's systems for timed starting, it is also expensive to retrofit.. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Re: Problems with hesitation at speed

mywillia wrote:
This is my first post and I would appreciate some help before I go off on a rant to my dealer.

I've got a 2010MY 3.0 TDV6 HSE with 3000k miles on the clock. I noticed a problem a few weeks ago that seems to be getting progressively worse.
When cruising at motorway speeds the engine seems to hesitate and then recover almost like a misfire. It does this constantly which makes for very jerky journeys. It is far more noticeable going downhill, doesn't matter how steep the incline, if it's not flat, the problem is more apparent. It gets worse the further beyond 70mph you go.

Being new to LR I thought when I first noticed the problem that it may be "normal" but surely not. It feels like a misfueling or injector issue to me.

Any ideas?


Had same problem . New throttle body fitted under warranty.

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Could also be sticking variable vanes on turbo, quite a few 3.0 MY 10's in dealers with this problem Rolling Eyes Rule 1, never buy a newly released vehicle /engine, (particularly LR's, far too many teething problems I'm afraid, and they expect us, (the customer),to do their product research and development for them.)Whistle RRS TDV8 Buck Blue (no, not now in my dreams). ..........D3 TDclankety clankV6 ............BMW 318i

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Texstar wrote:
Could also be sticking variable vanes on turbo, quite a few 3.0 MY 10's in dealers with this problem Rolling Eyes Rule 1, never buy a newly released vehicle /engine, (particularly LR's, far too many teething problems I'm afraid, and they expect us, (the customer),to do their product research and development for them.)Whistle


The engine isnt that new. Its a detuned Jaguar engine from what I understand.

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IIRC The TDv6 is originally a Peugeot/Citroen, Ford design............................. adapted for Land Rover's offroading needs. It is used in the C6, numerous Peugeots as well as Jaguars and Land Rovers in various redesigns to suit the needs of each car maker 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Re: Problems with hesitation at speed

SilverspeedRRS wrote:
Had same problem . New throttle body fitted under warranty.


Just thought I'd give you all a quick update. Got the car into the dealers this morning (eventually found some time to get it looked at)

The dealer has said that it needs a new throttle body and is a known fault on the MY10.

Interestingly I spoke to the technician and he told me that they had checked the car for THREE known faults.

1. = Juddering / hesitation - fixed by replacing with a revised body
2. = Stalling at Junctions - fixed with a software update
3. = Towbar issues - fixed with a software update

He also said that there are quite a few other issues that are known to LR with the MY10 RRS

Whilst I was there i got them to fix some rust on the car. I had the spare off the other day for a puncture and noticed that the spare wheel had some rust staining on it. When I checked under the car for any signs I noticed that the cable reel for the spare wheel hanger had rust forming on the rivet heads. I must say that the girl on the service desk looked very shocked when I said the car had some rust...

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