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guswyl

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Would you use bio-diesel if it was ok?

Hi all,

I was just wondering how many people would put bio-diesel in their RRS if was ok to use.

I know it's been discussed but I thought I'd bring it up again.

I've been seeing how my brother makes bio-diesel and it does seem quite easy.

I know Land Rover state only 5% but i'm going to try and find out more from them direct! P**sing in the wind i know but you never know.

I may have accidently put 35 liters in and no issues

Ta

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Tue Jul 08 2008 11:25pm

BigMart

Joined: 17 Mar 2007
Location: West Midlands
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2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Zermatt Silver

I'd use it in a shot!!

It used to be said of older discos that the rubber feed pipes were the problem....

I think LR want us to shy away from Biodiesel because they know we'll be tipping in all sorts of crap if we think it's safe.

I do beleive the injectors are the problem.Theye are so de;icate the fuel has to be VERY clean and thin to work properly. some bio is much thicker.
The truck boys get around it with extra filters and a fuel heater. I doubt it would be worth it unless you were doing a massive mileage.

LR won't risk approving a fuel mix that might wear out our very expensive injectors.

We need an injector expert.
I think I met someone at a trade show who might know a bit more than us.

Any injector gurus??

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Wed Jul 09 2008 6:26am

Rupert

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Wed Jul 09 2008 8:47am

simonsi

Joined: 01 Dec 2006
Location: Leicester
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2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Arctic Frost

Re: Would you use bio-diesel if it was ok?

guswyl wrote:
Hi all,

I was just wondering how many people would put bio-diesel in their RRS if was ok to use.

Yes, absolutely without hesitation.

The trick is knowing the bio-diesel is OK as frankly the QA on it is going to be shaky at best unless produced commercially IMHO

Edited to add: No disrespect to your brother Gus, its just that some of the problems may be caused by things in the bio invisible and undetectable to the small qty producer, thats my worry.... Cheers

Simon

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Wed Jul 09 2008 12:16pm

shmoogle
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I'm led to believe that however good the QA is, biofuel contains much larger particles than a standard diesel fuel so it's not a case of IF it clogs your injectors, but WHEN.

As others have said, biofuel would definitely have a much larger user base if the average guy producing it in his garage could ensure higher quality.

Wed Jul 09 2008 12:29pm

Japseroony

Joined: 06 Feb 2008
Location: North East
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2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Stornoway Grey

I understand that Morrission diesel is 35% bio-diesel and they have a big disclaimer somewhere saying it is your responsibility to check your vehicle can run on it.

If you dont see this and your vehicle can't then its off to the dealers for a big bill Gas, grass or ass - nobody rides for free!!

Thu Jul 10 2008 5:18pm

npinks

Joined: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Leeds
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Japseroony wrote:
I understand that Morrission diesel is 35% bio-diesel and they have a big disclaimer somewhere saying it is your responsibility to check your vehicle can run on it.

If you dont see this and your vehicle can't then its off to the dealers for a big bill

Thu Jul 10 2008 7:03pm

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Thu Jul 10 2008 7:06pm

Japseroony

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JayMann wrote:
What really that's a bit s t

Fully agree, but most supermarkets have some bio-diesel in their diesel - not normally above 5% but even this could affect warranty work on some vehicles

Gas, grass or ass - nobody rides for free!!

Fri Jul 11 2008 2:32pm

shmoogle
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Really? You'd think they wouldn't be able to do that....

Fri Jul 11 2008 2:48pm

Japseroony

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shmoogle wrote:
Really? You'd think they wouldn't be able to do that....

It may have something to do with the change in performance/mpg that lots of folk on here comment on - especially when using supermarket fuel as opposed to Shell/BP/Esso etc

Gas, grass or ass - nobody rides for free!!

Fri Jul 11 2008 3:03pm

Supertrotter

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I would have thought that the disclaimer would have to be pretty big and bold otherwise it could lead to an unprecedented amount of litigation for any supermarket.

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Fri Jul 11 2008 3:45pm

JayMann

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Yeah but it's like in that film "Super size me" the nutrition guide is up but it's up to you to look for it! RRS TDV6 Gone but still around

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Fri Jul 11 2008 3:49pm

Supertrotter

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JayMann wrote:
Yeah but it's like in that film "Super size me" the nutrition guide is up but it's up to you to look for it!

Don't tell me that Jay! Ignorance is (Big Mac shaped) bliss

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Fri Jul 11 2008 3:50pm

JayMann

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Yeah sod all that

2 large big mac meals please love RRS TDV6 Gone but still around

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