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dannyb13



Member Since: 13 Oct 2018
Location: Wakefield
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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black
2,7 black smoke on hard acceleration

Hi All new here.. please go easy Laughing

got myself a RRS 2.7 very cheap, due to it having an issue (egr valves had gone bad)
blanked them off, fix the issue
it's at 110k full land rover service history.

i'm going to check the intercooler pipes, are these a common failure point?

also whats the standard boost pressure, as it seems a tad bit nippy from what I've read on the 2.7.


any help/suggestions appreciated

Post #566854 Sat Oct 13 2018 3:58pm
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Camelrock



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Tangiers Orange

Hi and welcome, the common pipe which splits on the 2.7 is the pipe that goes from the intercooler to the throttle body. The pipe closest to the air filter.
Is the car noisey does it sound like there’s a split pipe, would expect the performance to be down if you have a split pipe ! 2008 G4 RRSport TDV8 current
2009 TDCi 90 current
2018 Discovery 5 HSE lux current
1994 Dakar current

Post #566855 Sat Oct 13 2018 4:13pm
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dannyb13



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

Thanks Camelrock!,

no tbh it's not, i know generally you can here the turbo with a split pipe.

Post #566856 Sat Oct 13 2018 4:20pm
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dannyb13



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

sorry also forgot to mention i's getting 21mpg average as displayed on the computer.. dose this sound right.

thats without gunning it everywhere just driving normally (city/town driving)

Post #566862 Sat Oct 13 2018 4:54pm
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Jaggs



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

21 is fairly typical of mine round town, 2007 are prone to cambelt tensioner on oil pump shearing off if it hasn't had modified pump fitted, it's a must to get it checked or you'll be 1000's out of pocket for a new engine. Nanocom Evo

Post #566866 Sat Oct 13 2018 5:32pm
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Camelrock



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Tangiers Orange

Sorry carnt help with the mpg as mines the TDV8, the lieometer is saying 24.7 but I live in the country but 21 mpg sounds a bit low to me 2008 G4 RRSport TDV8 current
2009 TDCi 90 current
2018 Discovery 5 HSE lux current
1994 Dakar current

Post #566867 Sat Oct 13 2018 5:34pm
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Stand Easy



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Santorini Black

[quote="dannyb13"]sorry also forgot to mention i's getting 21mpg average as displayed on the computer.. dose this sound right.

thats without gunning it everywhere just driving normally (city/town driving)[/quo

My 2.7 does around 25 town driving ang 35 motorway

Post #566868 Sat Oct 13 2018 6:07pm
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BJH1959



Member Since: 25 Mar 2017
Location: Paredes de Coura, Portugal
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Portugal 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Cairns Blue

Hi dannyb13

I too have a 2.7 and the black smoke!

All of my hoses are OK. I had the car remapped and had the EGR removed. I've been told on this forum and face-to-face that provided there's no noise and no loss of power there's nothing to worry about.

It's not burning oil either.

I've had 2 big services and it's sailed through MOT's in the UK and most recently a vigorous MOT/road-test here in Portugal during the matriculation process.

It's probably not a pretty sight to see from behind but I'm confident there's nothing wrong with the car. Barrie.
2005 RRS 2.7TDV6 from 2017 -2024. Best car I ever had.
Current: 2018 Ford Ranger Wildtrak 3.2

Post #566950 Sun Oct 14 2018 3:37pm
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dannyb13



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Thanks BJH1959.

thats my thought, i think it may have been remapped.. it seems nippy compared to another 2.7 I've test driven i dont think its down on power.

is there any easy way to tell if its been mapped?

Thanks

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BJH1959



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I'm no expert but I'm fairly sure there is no "easy way to see if a car has been remapped". There are others on here with vastly more experience than me who may be able to give you a definitive answer. Barrie.
2005 RRS 2.7TDV6 from 2017 -2024. Best car I ever had.
Current: 2018 Ford Ranger Wildtrak 3.2

Post #566998 Mon Oct 15 2018 6:02am
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PC76



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Hi,

There is a fix on the 3.0 tdv6 to replace the oil drain pipe from one or both (sorry not sure which) of the turbos. im not sure if this is a applicable to the 2.7 though,

Symptoms are:
Heavy black smoke under acceleration / load

if getting black smoke all the time then this could be worn turbos or worst case issue with the piston seals / cylinder head.

Post #567077 Tue Oct 16 2018 11:33am
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BJH1959



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Portugal 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Cairns Blue

Further to my previous entries on this issue, I do find that when I use BP Ultimate diesel there is considerably less black smoke when under 'heavy' acceleration than when I use standard diesel. Barrie.
2005 RRS 2.7TDV6 from 2017 -2024. Best car I ever had.
Current: 2018 Ford Ranger Wildtrak 3.2

Post #567444 Mon Oct 22 2018 1:22pm
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shepp



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Java Black

Hello Danny
I had issues with black smoke when I initially got my oil burner, one cheap thing to try first. Add a decent fuel cleaner and take it for a run.
I used Wynn's extreme clean 3, usually around £12 a bottle. Dumped the entire build up contents over an Audi, trying to get in my boot. It's been fine ever since. Also worth checking the correct oil has been used, some can produce excess soot. MY12 RRS HSE
Gone 4.2 supercharged RRS
Gone 90
Gone s2000

Post #567477 Mon Oct 22 2018 8:18pm
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