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Nowaytk



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England 

When you’re down this way again Tim, might be good to meet up again at the Ace for a coffee? Wouldn’t mind a snoop Thumbs Up 2015 HSE SDV6 Scotia Grey, ebony / lunar, colour coded, deployable steps, TV, sliding pano and a few other bits. Now gone
2018 Velar R-Dynamic HSE sdv6 silicon silver

Post #560681 Wed Jul 04 2018 3:24pm
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 30 May 2005
Location: Driving along in my automobile
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2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

I’ll let you know when i’m heading back south again, probably in late October - the weather will decide whether I drive south or let LNER take the strain as I now have an hourly High Speed rail service from my local station to Kings X in 4.5 hours 2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - a test car before Seeing if I could go to totally Petrol/Diesel free motoring
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Post #560683 Wed Jul 04 2018 4:07pm
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timhum



Member Since: 06 Mar 2017
Location: Suffolk
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Re: First motorway run

Tim in Scotland wrote:
Yesterday I did a run from home to Leith in Edinburgh (no not to see the Royal Yacht but to visit friends who have a flat that has stunning views over Leith Docks, the River Forth and The Royal Yacht.)

The journey involves 17 miles of fast A road driving to the M9 motorway to join at J10 then motorway for 36 miles to J1 Newbridge then cut and thrust city driving on pretty good A roads, the first 3 miles of the mortorway are on a relatively steep incline. Now i’ve got some of the permutations of the drive modes sussed out I left the house in electric mode, leaving the village where I live I switched over to run in Save+Green mode that runs in petrol but also deadens the throttle, makes the car coast when it doesn’t need power and will recuperate (Mini speak for regenerate) energy in freewheel mode. As I switched over to Save mode I reset the trip MPG meter. Having left home with 98% battery charge there wasn’t much regen required to top off the driving battery. I ran with the sunroof in the vent position and the climate control set at 18 to keep the cabin pleasant ( I could set up green mode so that it won’t allow the climate to cool / heat the cabin, but I do like my creature comforts and i’m Not ready for full miser mode of MaxE+Green....... fully electric no petrol back up no a/c mode. Leaving the M9 after a blast on cruise control for 35 miles the mpg meter showed 47mpg - pretty good considering that the petrol engine has only run about 250 miles of the 650 miles racked up so far in total, so it is still tight. Things of note - I pulled out to overtake slower moving traffic and without registering it I was up to 85-90mph with ease - as easily as the RRS SDv6 does it and was surprised that in Green mode it was no slouch on the motorway. So 47mpg on a tight new engine at fast motorway speeds is nothing to whinge about. Also hugely impressive is how smooth and quiet the little 3 cylinder 1.5ltr is and it has bags and bags of torque for a petrol engine, i’m Not joking but this engine makes the SDv6 sound like a rough old tractor (which I know it isn't), there is only any reminder it is running if you really floor the gas pedal and ask it to go to the top of the Rev band which isn’t what an eco -car is really about. Wind noise even with the sun roof opened to the vent position is non-existent, it seems that my initial comments about wind noise from the opening section of the sunroof has cured itself, now there is no noise except a little rattle from the manually moved sun shade in its track. Passing Gogarburn heading into Leith I switched back to electric mode and drove in stop/start rush hour traffic arriving at Leith Docks with just over half the drive battery charge remaining. By the time I left to go home after midnight the temperature outside had dropped from 23 to 13c and the climate control turned the heating on as soon as I started - so it has a PTC heater running off the electrics rather than the engine heat. Out of the city limit I switched back to SaveE+Green modes and set the cruise at 70 for the motorway, I had 1/3rd of the drive battery left - driving north on the M9 there are some long gradual descents and long flat sections, it was nice to watch the drive battery charge state slowly creeping round to the right as the car recovered energy on the down gradients and arriving at J9 I was able to turn off the motorway with >¾’s of the battery Charge again which was enough for me to drive the remaining 17 miles home on the battery and arrive back with the petrol gauge having dropped from 3/4tank to just a whisker under half ( about 9litres of petrol used for the trip) - on the electrical consumption side the Mini Connected app is showing that I am averaging 88.8miles per kWhr total average mpg 43.5 and I recovered 12.4mile/kWhr by regeneration.
Night driving is a breeze too with the LED headlights, they are very powerful on full beam and have a very good beam pattern, so bright that I wanted to dip them for roadsigns........ on dipped beam also a good pattern and plenty of power - I didn’t opt for the auto dipping system on my car - I had them on various RRS’s and Evoques but found them a bit inconsistent in their operation so decided not to bother this time - so far Mini doesn’t offer pixel type headlights, mine are adaptive LED projector type that to look at look like BiXenon projectors.

The “efficiency” meter is showing 4.5/5 stars. I know that doing a really long motorway trip,is not what the car is designed for but it is so quiet and smooth in petrol mode it wouldn’t be a hardship, what would be hard to bear would be having to stop a couple of times to refuel the tiny 36ltr petrol tank. 26miles of electrical range isn’t a lot of use for a long run but I’m Going to give it a try next year when I have a few trips to London coming up and the petrol engine might have loosened up a bit more - 4.5hour Stirling to Kings X 1st class on LNER on the East Coast line though is more appealing than a 10 hour drive, even one made in the RRS!


Tim, thanks for a great summary of your experiences. It would be very interesting to try out the Mini phev and also the RRS equivalent. Please keep the feedback coming.
Tim Tim
RRS HSE 3.0TDV6

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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 30 May 2005
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2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

I was all set up for a demo of the RRS PHEV in June but the demo car was suffering “technical issues”. But i’ll keep you all up to date.

I have made two discoveries in the last 48 hours - I have Automous emergency braking without adaptive cruise control, I didn’t tick that box but for 2018MY AEB is standard on all Minis and that also comes with a city safety system to protect pedestrians as well as standard on the PHEV because it is silent in electric mode. Had I been told I could also have had a system that records dash cam info using the same front cam as AEB and the reversing cam for a rear view. As an option it would have cost £125 extra - probably cheaper than having an after market dash cam fitted (which is also an option through the dealership using a BMW branded system recording to the satnav hard drive (no CD/DVD player/ ripper in my car but lots of memory) I would imagine that to have that in any Land Rover product you would be looking at a bill of £6-700 or more.
Also my car is “connected” but there is no SIM, it just works, as I found out 2 weeks ago when I was greeted by a message telling me that a system update had been down loaded to the car overnight and to connect by USB to update something in the app on my iPhone! No need to go to the App Store or online to update my app. I have the upgraded the latest Harmon Kardon Top of the Range audio system - it is very good and at £300 extra was an option that costs £5000 on an RRS to have the equivalent Meridian System........ So far I have not used the Apple Car Play that comes with the car - I only listen to the radio or use the car’s free subscription to Tune In for 1000’s of streamed radio channels. 2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - a test car before Seeing if I could go to totally Petrol/Diesel free motoring
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW


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Post #560848 Fri Jul 06 2018 8:49am
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SRE



Member Since: 16 Jan 2010
Location: Alicante Prov Spain + Hampshire UK
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Looks like you have fallen in love with this car Tim Thumbs Up In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Down and out's Velar
In UK - Not saying, but its NOT a Muddy Milk Float.
Gone - Several Lode Lane vehicles
- Beta User

Post #560857 Fri Jul 06 2018 9:56am
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 30 May 2005
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2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

Yes, but I would have loved to have bought another new RRS. The F-Pace doesn’t really do it for me, maybe because it would be too close a call to an RRS, but like you found my wallet isn’t big enough these days to be buying a new RRS with the few extras that used to be standard kit. I could easily chop in the Mini for an I-Pace though - I see it has been voted the Auto-Express car of the year - but not an early one, i’ve Had enough being an unpaid fault finder for niggling faults that should have been found pre-launch and simply shouldn’t be there on a car costing what an RRS (even a low spec one ) costs.
I was sorting out car paperwork from my files the other day, invoice for invoice my Mini’s List price now was £50 short of what I paid for a brand new L322 TD6 SE FFRR in 2003 £41500!) and I feel that my Mini could easily be a proper baby FFRR like the Freelander2 used to be - except the road holding/ handling is better! 2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - a test car before Seeing if I could go to totally Petrol/Diesel free motoring
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Post #560868 Fri Jul 06 2018 1:46pm
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Brit Plumber



Member Since: 05 Jan 2018
Location: Sleaford, Lincolnshire
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England 2012 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Autobiography Fuji White

I was talking to my mate with the mini again the other day. To add to the story I mentioned on page 5, it turns out it’s very quick and easy to steal the front end of a mini! Mini have told him he’s been the victim of attempted theft, someone has spooked the would be thief minutes before completing the job. When will these low life scum bags stop causing misery to others! 2012MY RRS 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography (Current)
67 plate Focus ST Line (Current)
09 Mondeo 2.2 Titanium X Sport (Current)
1942 VEP Ford GPW Jeep (Willys) (Current)

02 Ford Focus TDCI (Brilliant car sadly scrapped)
99 BMW M3GTII (Amazing car, written off By a Fiat)

Post #563419 Sat Aug 18 2018 10:51am
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cormacr



Member Since: 10 Jan 2017
Location: Wicklow
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Ireland 



I decided to follow Tim's lead and buy a Mini Countryman PHEV. The 3 month old Discovery 5 looking for a service at 2,800 miles was probably a factor! I will use the Mini to keep the miles off the two LR's, the oil dilution/early servicing means they are not really up to the task. It is a brilliant car for doing the short runs, I installed a charging point at home and can charge for free at the office which is 19 miles away - so far I can do the daily commute on 100% electric.
I'm not sure what LR's solution is, the dealer is doing free oil/filter changes but the inconvenience of going back and forth to the garage was getting too much to take. We just use the Disco for towing now and the RRS is probably only doing 100 miles/week. I will keep changing the oil/filter every 3,000 miles and hope I don't run into any issues.

Post #563958 Sun Aug 26 2018 2:41pm
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