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Oldandconfused



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Zermatt Silver
EPB seized on; Wind back shoes?

Park brake seized on, can't operate emergency release (tried removing gear lever surround, just about get to wire loop, moves about an inch then rock solid doesn't release brake).
Is it a case of pull fuse 8, jack rear wheels up and wind back the brake shoes using the adjuster in the drum?
Bet it's not as easy as that is it?
Or any other suggestions that doesn't involve a gallon of unleaded please.

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Andy K



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England 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Rimini Red

you need to align the adjuster hole with the adjuster, which isn't easy with the brake jammed on!

Post #554389 Tue Apr 17 2018 11:05am
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Oldandconfused



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Zermatt Silver

Censored , hadn't thought of that. Sad

Post #554390 Tue Apr 17 2018 11:06am
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gogsy1956



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Bali Blue

Emergency release very rarely works but you should be able to pull on it more than an inch,,, need to put some serious effort into it and see if it will move more. Have had the same issue, dirt and neglect are the big enemy,,, hence the screeching noise when it tries to operate, the module just winds the shoes up tighter and tighter. Even cutting the cables on mine would not release the brakes so I think you stand no chance trying to wind them back. In the end cost me new disc's, pads, shoes etc and module. 2010 RRS, TDV8
bali Blue / colour coded
side steps / flappy paddles
black perforated leather
22" overfinch
heated everything, TV,fridge ...... now with gold calipers and mud flaps !( black mud flaps that is) !!
Many years ago,,,,, 1955 series 1 landie , sometimes wish I had kept it

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Oldandconfused



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Zermatt Silver

I'm beginning to feel very despondent about this now.
I couldn't wriggle the EPB switch out despite previous posters help, so fabricated a hook using some steel rod and tried to pull it via the gear lever aperture, so wasn't pulling it absolutely vertically. I had wrapped the steel rod round a length of wood to form a "T" handle and it wouldn't shift.
What really cheeses me off is that I had them stripped and adjusted in January to prevent just this issue.
Thanks for your help guys anyway.

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geoffsnook



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Wales 2005 Range Rover Sport Supercharged HSE Java Black

I REMEMBER WHEN I HAD ISSUES WITH MY DISCOVERY I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BREAK IT I PULLED IT SO HARD BUT WHEN YOU SEE THE CABLE PATH YOU UNDERSTAND Thumbs Up

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geoffsnook



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Ooops did not realise cap's lock was on Rolling with laughter

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Andy K



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England 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Rimini Red

If you have had the shoes serviced, then Have a look at this :

See if you can somehow open the EPB in the middle of the car and disconnect the cables???

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/epb-repair-...91299.html


If the problem is with unmaintained shoes, you can remove the caliper and hit the disc from the rear to attempt to remove it. Then tap it back on, and see if you can rotate the disc and align with the adjuster screw and release the shoes. I managed this but it was a fluke I think!

Post #554433 Tue Apr 17 2018 6:07pm
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gogsy1956



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Bali Blue

Disappointing seeing you had them serviced recently, providing they were done correctly. As Andy has pointed out,, could be a problem with the module itself that is caused the issue. 2010 RRS, TDV8
bali Blue / colour coded
side steps / flappy paddles
black perforated leather
22" overfinch
heated everything, TV,fridge ...... now with gold calipers and mud flaps !( black mud flaps that is) !!
Many years ago,,,,, 1955 series 1 landie , sometimes wish I had kept it

Post #554452 Wed Apr 18 2018 6:50am
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Oldandconfused



Member Since: 18 Jun 2017
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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Zermatt Silver

Local indi has read codes (different post) and pronounced the module Fubar'ed so will need replacing. This was when it was still driveable, just screeching. He was a bit busy so I said i'd bring it back, no rush Banging Head
I can see where your coming from Andy and it may work as the discs and pads were new when i got it about 5k ago, so should hopefully not be lipped inside the drum.
I'm off on jollies to Florida next Tuesday with loads to do, so I may just forget about the RRS till I get back.
Thanks again chaps.

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Brit Plumber



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England 2012 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Autobiography Fuji White

If the module had failed, I would have expected the manual release to have worked. Could it not be seized cables? 2012 5.0 SC AB
Mods:
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Remote Boot close from key fob
2016 Discovery 4 Mirrors AKA RRS2
2014 L405 Surround Camera retro fit (WIP)
2013 RRS Dual View Screen fit (Complete)
2016 LR4 RSE
2014 LR4 Homelink
2016 FFRR Electrochromatic Wing Mirror Glass

70 plate Focus ST (Current)
1942 VEP Ford GPW Jeep (Willys) (Current)
1943 Whites M16 Halftrack (Current)
16 plate Eurofighter Typhoon, 2 x Eurojet engines with 20,000lbs thrust each. 1380mph

Post #554526 Wed Apr 18 2018 6:23pm
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Oldandconfused



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Zermatt Silver

I am more inclined to discount seized cables as it would auto release, albeit with a screech when driving off. That was before it completely seized that is.

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gogsy1956



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Bali Blue

I think the emergency release would only work providing the shoes etc are nice and free 2010 RRS, TDV8
bali Blue / colour coded
side steps / flappy paddles
black perforated leather
22" overfinch
heated everything, TV,fridge ...... now with gold calipers and mud flaps !( black mud flaps that is) !!
Many years ago,,,,, 1955 series 1 landie , sometimes wish I had kept it

Post #554563 Thu Apr 19 2018 6:24am
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Oldandconfused



Member Since: 18 Jun 2017
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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Zermatt Silver

You may well be correct. My understanding is that the emergency release actually disengages the cables inside the module from the mechanism that puts them under tension. I would hope that, bearing in mind the brakes were stripped and adjusted in January, the shoes should be free to move.
I will have another go with the emergency release when I get back off holiday, failing that I have breakdown recovery to get it to the garage.

Post #554564 Thu Apr 19 2018 6:42am
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Brit Plumber



Member Since: 05 Jan 2018
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England 2012 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Autobiography Fuji White

My thought train was that the manual release may have worked however if the cables are seized, the brake would still be stuck on. My old Mondeo had similar when the protective tube over the inner cable got pulled into the outer Bowden and jammed the brake on on one side. In fact, is it both wheels stuck on or just one? Have you checked? 2012 5.0 SC AB
Mods:
TPMS
Genuine LR DRLs
Remote Boot close from key fob
2016 Discovery 4 Mirrors AKA RRS2
2014 L405 Surround Camera retro fit (WIP)
2013 RRS Dual View Screen fit (Complete)
2016 LR4 RSE
2014 LR4 Homelink
2016 FFRR Electrochromatic Wing Mirror Glass

70 plate Focus ST (Current)
1942 VEP Ford GPW Jeep (Willys) (Current)
1943 Whites M16 Halftrack (Current)
16 plate Eurofighter Typhoon, 2 x Eurojet engines with 20,000lbs thrust each. 1380mph

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