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johnnywright



Member Since: 22 Dec 2015
Location: colchester
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black
Cold Starting

I have a 2006 HSE which on really cold days (below freezing) won't start, doesn't even attaempt to fire, just clouds of smoke everywhere....Its had various parts replaced including Battery, injectors, glow plus etc but the issue remains but only on cold and frosty days. its had every test going but no issues are ever detected. Although the Battery is new and normaly fine when the issue occurs the battery almost seems not powerful enough. Once left after the initial atempt to start for a couple of hours it will start straight up without any problem..I have tried other Batteries which are known to be fine but the same thing happens. The engine turns over fine but the computer screen will flash and interior / dash lights etc will dim as though there isn't enough power Big Cry
Has anyone else had this problem or knows what the cure is? Thanks

Post #512986 Tue Dec 27 2016 5:49am
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thebigstamp



Member Since: 07 Mar 2014
Location: london
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United Kingdom 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Siberian Silver

I've had the same problem with mine. Found the only way to get over this problem is to turn ignition on and wait for glow plug light to go off. Then repeat this 3-4 times and then mine starts fine.

Post #513008 Tue Dec 27 2016 5:15pm
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phillh



Member Since: 09 Oct 2016
Location: Hertfordshire
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United Kingdom 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Zermatt Silver

+1,

give the glow plugs a chance to heat up, then try and start it. Only takes 10 seconds or so.

Post #513010 Tue Dec 27 2016 5:35pm
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johnnywright



Member Since: 22 Dec 2015
Location: colchester
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

Thanks for the replies.....Already done this but still won't start! It failed to start again this morning as we had quite a hard frost, tried again a couple of hours later and off it went. I was wondering if it could possibly be an issue with condensation freezing in an air sensor or some other electronic gizmo??

Post #513014 Tue Dec 27 2016 8:08pm
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ShooterNeil



Member Since: 14 Nov 2012
Location: Tamworth
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England 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Java Black

Get a bell FBH Controller will help warm up engine before you start it not a fix but may help 07 HSE TDV8 with lots of toys EGR removed BAS remap

Post #513019 Tue Dec 27 2016 9:39pm
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johnnywright



Member Since: 22 Dec 2015
Location: colchester
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

Thanks, I'll look into it Thumbs Up

Post #513035 Wed Dec 28 2016 8:02am
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Post #513045 Wed Dec 28 2016 11:29am
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johnnywright



Member Since: 22 Dec 2015
Location: colchester
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

Thanks, not being that machanically minded I didn't even know there was a heater fitted as standard! Now that I know the standard unit clearly doesn't work, other than checking the fuse ( which is ok) I don't know what else I can do to fix the issue myself. Are these units you mentioned designed to work in conjunction with the standard item or are they an alternative? If I got the standard item replaced / repaired shouldn't that resolve the issue I'm having? Thanks again for you help gents.

Post #513051 Wed Dec 28 2016 1:26pm
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RRSTDV8



Member Since: 12 Aug 2011
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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Stornoway Grey

The supplementary heater normally works once the engine has been started. It was originally intended to have a user defined function to allow timed starting before the engine was started. LR software wasn't good enough and the option was removed. Units are available, such as those mentioned above, that allow us to implement that timed/remote activation facility for the heater.

It is well worth doing if you have a cold start issue. Thumbs Up 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
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Post #513054 Wed Dec 28 2016 2:16pm
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johnnywright



Member Since: 22 Dec 2015
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

Arrrrrr, I see. Thanks for the explanation, Thumbs Up

Post #513056 Wed Dec 28 2016 3:32pm
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Ch04oma



Member Since: 07 May 2017
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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Siberian Silver

I have this issue did you get it sorted

Post #542298 Thu Nov 30 2017 10:45pm
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GodivaNige



Member Since: 14 May 2016
Location: Warwickshire
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England 2009 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Buckingham Blue

thebigstamp wrote:
I've had the same problem with mine. Found the only way to get over this problem is to turn ignition on and wait for glow plug light to go off. Then repeat this 3-4 times and then mine starts fine.


This shouldn’t be necessary, there is another underlying fault giving the problem. If everything is in working order, the glow time determined by the relative ECU and the sensors feeding it the signals, should enable a first start no matter what weather we experience in this country.

I had exactly the same issue with a previously owned car (not a LR). Went through the same process of replacing battery, glowplugs, relays and sensors and in the end, it was the starter motor. Worked ok on warm days but with very cold frosty starts, the failing starter motor would struggle to spin the engine quickly enough to create the sufficient compression required for ignition

Post #542299 Thu Nov 30 2017 11:08pm
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marsh23



Member Since: 01 Mar 2018
Location: wiltshire
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

I Have this exact same problem on my 2.7 tdv6 Once the outside temp falls below 0, my range will turn over but no start. If i open the bonnet and warm up the Coolant Temp sensor with a hairdryer for only about 5 seconds or so she will fire up... I've changed the sensor and it still won't fire... i found this video on youtube of a guy with the exact same problem to give you an idea what mine is doing ... Any idea's ???

Post #550119 Thu Mar 01 2018 2:09pm
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phillh



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United Kingdom 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Zermatt Silver

I was a bit sceptical about this but I gave it a try. I poured a small amount of hot water from a kettle over the sensor, turned ignition on, waited for glow plug light to go out and then it started perfectly first time Thumbs Up

Post #550263 Fri Mar 02 2018 3:45pm
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Yetiman



Member Since: 16 Dec 2015
Location: Tamworth
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2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

Ive had the same problem and tried this trick, car fired first turn of the key. Is it just a case of changing the sensor to rectify the problem

Post #551713 Sun Mar 18 2018 10:48am
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