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GodivaNige



Member Since: 14 May 2016
Location: Warwickshire
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England 2009 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Buckingham Blue

A Defender has it’s uses. I spent a day doing some work for a mountain rescue team last year, a RRS wouldn’t last a week with the punishment I saw the Defender they had go through.

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RRSTDV8



Member Since: 12 Aug 2011
Location: Northamptonshire
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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Stornoway Grey

Oh yes, they have their uses and are excellent in those situations. They are pretty niche now though. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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qcnr



Member Since: 07 Dec 2017
Location: Stavanger
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Norway 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Lux Buckingham Blue

A 2nd hand 150+K Defender. Shocked Laughing Laughing
Even if it is factory approved at that price it had better never rust, never leak
and never break down.
Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 30 May 2005
Location: Driving along in my automobile
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2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

RRSTDV8 wrote:
warkman wrote:

The RRS is also designed for its use, mothers driving to school runs Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

I take it you've never driven an RRS off road then? Tyre for tyre, the RRS will go anywhere a Defender will (until it runs out of angles). The RRS will also climb and descend stuff that a Defender will scare you half to death doing. It'll do it in total comfort and be able to take you 500+miles in a day without crippling or deafening you.

The same applies to the Disco and the FFRR. Out of the box, the Defender is outclassed and outdated. Sure, you can chuck loads of upgrades at it but it's not really a Defender anymore then, is it?


I completely agree with RRSTDv8 - Ihave both a Sport and a1996 Defender 90. My Sport will go more places on AT Tyres than my 90 will on MT’s, I just don’t try it out in the same conditions as the thought of damaging the RRS causes a painful sharp intake of breath and a rapid return to reality - but RRS/Discos of all models except DS, FFRR are hugely capable ofroad in conditions that would severely challenge a Defender and scare the pants off the Def owner. I have to be really awake to the “cross axle” situation in my 90 - it has no HDC, no ABS, no Traction Control, no heating worth speaking about but it does have very comfortable seats but any drive over 2 hours is torture to your right arm and hearing.

Just one comment - I was told recently by a fleet manager for a major utility company that they are buying up old Defenders too and rebuilding them in their own workshops as nothing else that they have had since Defender production ceased can handle the heavy loads, rough terrain and abuse that utility company workers throw at their vehicles quite like the Defender can - sure it is crude, they break down BUT they are cheap and dead easy to repair and not one of the competition hand handle what the Defender does - not even a Toyota Land Cruiser (they don’t have the offroad ability of the Defender and they rust worse than a Defender’s chassis and every one of them wears out in 3-4 years and is useless after 150,000 miles as they have usually fallen to pieces long before. He says the most useless work vehicles that they have are the LC200/Nissan/Toyota etc pickups, no matter how many toys you fit they fall to bits in a year when treated like a Defender............ also their workforce loves their Defenders and look after them far better than they look after other makes because they know that if they don’t they will end up with JapCrap. 2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - a test car before Seeing if I could go to totally Petrol/Diesel free motoring
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

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