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qwick69



Member Since: 09 Aug 2016
Location: Hertfordshire
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Ad Blue

I am sure this has been brought up before, but cant find it on the Forum.
I have a MY17 Autobiography, it needs filling with Ad Blue every 4k-4.5k. Is this normal?
I have a service contract, so its done FOC, but its just a right pain having to go to the dealers every 3 months and wait for it to be done.

Post #535087 Tue Sep 12 2017 1:41pm
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muddywheels
Milk Float Man


Member Since: 01 Jul 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 5584

England 

I bought a DS with Adblue and it was using twice as much as advertised - according to owners on forums we are not alone Confused Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Post #535089 Tue Sep 12 2017 2:07pm
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fkarim



Member Since: 14 Apr 2012
Location: London
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My MY16 has just returned from its second service. Never needed adblue top-up between services and just before going into service it has shown a good few thousand miles until adblue top-up required on both occasions. Car has covered 17.5k miles and is driven in London in slow traffic regularly. Current: Volvo XC90 T8 Inscription Pro PHEV with some optionals on top
Gone: MY16 RRS2 3.0 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic, Carpathian Grey & Santorini Black Sliding Pano/Ebony & Ivory 2 Tone
Gone: MY13 RRS 3.0 SDV6 HSE Black Edition, Orkney Grey/Ivory
Gone: MY09 RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSE, Santorini Black/Almond

Post #535094 Tue Sep 12 2017 3:29pm
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XP



Member Since: 27 Nov 2016
Location: London
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I have just filled it up last weekend, have only done slightly more than 5k miles. Mine is MY17 as well...
I remember seeing people saying one full tank can do 12k miles+, so was really surprised when I received the message..

Post #535098 Tue Sep 12 2017 3:40pm
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wilf



Member Since: 08 Nov 2012
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Sumting wrong if you are using a full Adblue tank every 5k miles. MY2016 HSE D SDV6 - gone due to fuel dilution problems.

By the age of 50 you have the face you deserve - George Orwell.

Post #535106 Tue Sep 12 2017 5:38pm
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rich_sargie



Member Since: 08 Sep 2014
Location: hull
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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Bali Blue

It can depend a lot on driving style as it is a selective catalyst reduction system. Meaning it only uses add blue when it sees excess in Emissions
. I find the harder i drive the more you use, why some one who plods arround won't use as much but if you like to give it beans you will use more

Post #535107 Tue Sep 12 2017 5:53pm
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Triple7



Member Since: 27 Oct 2011
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Mine did 11 months and 9500miles before the warning came on. Mixed driving..... 6 bottles.... Gone:
2016.5MY RRS HSE Dyn
2015MY Disco Sport HSE
2011MY FL2 HSE
2010MY RRS HSE
2008MY D3 HSE

Post #535139 Tue Sep 12 2017 8:52pm
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fkarim



Member Since: 14 Apr 2012
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rich_sargie wrote:
It can depend a lot on driving style as it is a selective catalyst reduction system. Meaning it only uses add blue when it sees excess in Emissions
. I find the harder i drive the more you use, why some one who plods arround won't use as much but if you like to give it beans you will use more


If that is true then I would think mine should have definitely required adblue top-ups (but hasn't). It is either driven in low gears in city traffic or with a heavy right foot on dual carriageways/motorways. Both should result in excess emissions. Current: Volvo XC90 T8 Inscription Pro PHEV with some optionals on top
Gone: MY16 RRS2 3.0 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic, Carpathian Grey & Santorini Black Sliding Pano/Ebony & Ivory 2 Tone
Gone: MY13 RRS 3.0 SDV6 HSE Black Edition, Orkney Grey/Ivory
Gone: MY09 RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSE, Santorini Black/Almond

Post #535144 Tue Sep 12 2017 9:56pm
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Black Bess



Member Since: 09 Sep 2013
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United Kingdom 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

SCR is very temperature dependent. The rate of adblue dosing will depend on the level of NOx sensed at the front of the catalyst (which will depend on the load on the engine and engine exhaust temp), coupled with the temperature of the SCR catalyst bed. If the catalyst is cool (slow city driving may never see it warm up) it will not dose much at all, to avoid ammonia slip from the tailpipe (which is not a good thing!). Under nice hot motorway driving, you will see the optimal level of dosing and excellent NOx reduction. When working properly it is astonishingly good at NOx reduction. 90% reduction is quite achievable, bringing NOx emissions down to the level of a petrol equipped with 3-way catalytic convertor.

So, all of this pre-amble means that adblue consumption is directly linked to your driving patterns.

Post #535178 Wed Sep 13 2017 10:03am
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udash



Member Since: 16 Oct 2009
Location: manchester
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2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 Autobiography Firenze Red

For last 2 years I managed to do around 10,000 miles for each full tank of Ad blue.

Post #535203 Wed Sep 13 2017 1:03pm
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qwick69



Member Since: 09 Aug 2016
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Well, getting 3500-4000 miles. Dealer has now said that is what is expected from a MY2017 !!!
So that is going to be 4 visits at least a year, waiting around for 40 mins. I could do it myself in 10 mins, but why should I. I have paid the extra for service plan which includes Ad Blue

Post #536001 Wed Sep 20 2017 5:02pm
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wilf



Member Since: 08 Nov 2012
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I can't decide whether to call your dealer stupid or crooked. The Adblue tank was always sized to last between services. MY2016 HSE D SDV6 - gone due to fuel dilution problems.

By the age of 50 you have the face you deserve - George Orwell.

Post #536009 Wed Sep 20 2017 6:08pm
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BKHK



Member Since: 05 May 2008
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Australia 

Weren't there some engine setting changes for MY17 which might have an effect?

Post #536053 Wed Sep 20 2017 11:15pm
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Black Bess



Member Since: 09 Sep 2013
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United Kingdom 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

The adblue consumption rate is simply a function of the number of times that the car meets the conditions for NOx reduction ( based upon exhaust temperature and NOx production rate) versus the size of the storage tank.

If there have been changes to the dosing strategy (in all probability there might be to meet the requirements of the new WLTC (world harmonized test cycle) and the RDE on-road verification of emissions (Real Driving Emissions) both of which began in 2017), Then that would account for an increased consumption rate.

This is the state of the art for diesel emissions control for the foreseeable future (until we all buy petrol-electric hybrids) so you may as well get used to topping up the adblue, like when you refill the washer bottle. I wouldn`t bother driving all the way to the dealer and waiting around for a thoroughly routine task.

Post #536071 Thu Sep 21 2017 10:23am
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rigsby



Member Since: 20 Apr 2012
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Mine has been filled twice in 2years both during routine service ( done today). The warning came on on Friday but it was already booked in for the service. Total mileage 23700 so 12000 between fill ups. Notice on the invoice it took 17 litres to fill up Thumbs Up MY16 AUTOBIOGRAPHY Indus silver with some toys

2012 3.0 SDV6 Luxury gone, but a great motor

Post #536429 Tue Sep 26 2017 1:12am
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