'D-charge' trial of £2.45 bill for diesel drivers launched in central London

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/d...72926.html

this is from the evening standard, I do see this as the "thin end of the wedge" its an easy tax raising measure and I can't see this being limited to the most polluting cars. It'll just be "Diesel is bad", makes me nervous about buying a diesel RRS. Too much of this and in 3 years they could be a liability. Petrol/Hybrid or PCP (with GFV) maybe ?

AllTalk.

It is a higher hourly rate for pre - 2015 diesel cars. 2023 P440e SE Dynamic on order -cancelled

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Plus a few other cars inbetween!

Good spot - looked at a couple of other reports/articles most miss the pre-2015 point which is somewhat fundamental.

Other option is to not take a diesel engined car into Central London.......... I wonder how all the cabbies will fare when they are waiting on a taxi rank as many black cabs are diesels.
Even better, just don't go to London, there are plenty of nicer places around the UK that won't be charging a diesel tax, cheaper to live in, less rat race, fewer illegal immigrants ................. but please don't all rush to live in Central Scotland, it's crowded enough as it is! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

And of course by "pre-2015" they really mean anything not Euro-6 compliant 2016 RRS 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography Dynamic in Montalcino Red and Stealth Kit

But surely if they are parked, they are not polluting?  Just bought a RRS 06 MY HSE TDV6 136,000 miles, to be a second car to my bland, boring Mitsubishi Outlander 68 plate 2.0 petrol 4

Yes, councils never see the irony of their policies, do they?

They should charge more for moving vehicles, not parked ones. In fact, they should be encouraging polluting vehicles to park!

It's also ironic how, when a car is over its parking time, they clamp it, thereby preventing it doing the thing they want ie to move it on.

Robert

Unfortunately, politicians want to be seen to be taking a stance in the wake of VW et al.

It is a case of 'don`t confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up'.

Somebody is talking sensibly about Euro6 Diesels and the choice we have to make - CO2 or Air Quality basically, and CO2 has by far the worse conscequences for the world - global warming.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry
For some reason I cannot link the actual item but scroll down the page to the bit about "jaguar-land-rover-boss-“there-nothing-wrong-buying-modern-diesel-car”" 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

It's from the mayor of London again! What a tw at! Tesla model 3 long range
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He certainly is, but if voters grow a brain cell, he shouldn't last till 2025 like he expects to for his plans. John

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Why do we always seem to get an anti car hate the motorist mayor in London, or is it they know we winger for a bit then just roll over and pay up so easy fund raiser

I also see that he aims to reduce speed limits to 20mph in Central London.............. whenever I walk through the west end during the day it seems that I overtake most of the traffic at my walking pace. He must be too used to his chauffeur driven limo with police outriders clearing the streets ahead of his cavalcade 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

360 wrote:

Why do we always seem to get an anti car hate the motorist mayor in London, or is it they know we winger for a bit then just roll over and pay up so easy fund raiser

We used to have a Minister of Transport that couldn't even drive!

Proof the mayor has no sense or understanding re pollution issues and cars.
At his 20mph instead of 30/40mph vehicles use more fuel and emit far larger amounts of pollution into the atmosphere at 20mph, I don't hardly start going through the gears at that speed, so it's much more costly and far more poisons being ejected, madness,
Same as having speed ramps watching people speed up in between then heavy braking, which of course also causes the same problem.  John

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