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Tim in Scotland



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Jaguar E Pace

This week's Autocar has a photo of a disguised but recognisable new Jaguar baby SUV to slot in below the F Pace and Evoque pricewise. To be based on the DiscoSport underpinnings with Ingenium 2.0ltr 4 cylinder engines, both petrol and diesel. Launch date is stated to be May 2017 after the launch of the RRS Coupe at the Geneva Motorshow. Autocar states that the F Pace is Jaguar's best selling model, even outselling the XE saloon, but they expect that at a price starting around the high 20,000's it will bring the appeal of a Jaguar to a lot more customers than the F Pace and will be an even bigger sale. Only fly in the ointment is what will JLR do to UK pricing of all models to compensate for the import taxes to be paid in European Markets once we have left the EU, will JLR slap big price rises on home market cars to compensate for not increasing prices overseas and in the EU where high import duties may have to be paid........... 2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV on order for April delivery, bye bye Land Rover after 21 years and 11 LR products..... all because you won’t give me reassurance that should my SDv6 crankshaft break because of a design fault, not MY fault, but the engine builders fault - it will be replaced for free.
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Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

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0310



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Looks very interesting, we enjoyed 4 days with an F Pace late last year, a smaller version should get below the envy tax threshold of 40k. Only problem is DS based and built at Halewood where quality is an alien concept. MY16 HSE Dynamic, Santorini, ebony/cirrus, sliding pano, cameras, black wheels - Arrived 1 October 2015

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RRSTDV8



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Re: Jaguar E Pace

Tim in Scotland wrote:
Only fly in the ointment is what will JLR do to UK pricing of all models to compensate for the import taxes to be paid in European Markets once we have left the EU, will JLR slap big price rises on home market cars to compensate for not increasing prices overseas and in the EU where high import duties may have to be paid...........

More likely is that they'll build EU vehicles in the EU. UK factory would then build UK and RoW vehicles. 2012 SDV6
2008 TDV8 - it's a labour of love

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JOCK55



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Na! I think you're both wrong and that EU vehicles will be built in EU and Right hand drive vehicles will be built in India!!! Close all the cost negative assembly plants in UK. Maybe maintain a UK design and engineering office but hive off manufacturing to somewhere with a much lower cost base.

Just my theory!

Old Jock "Say what you mean, Mean what you say...... and Do it!"
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Tim in Scotland



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Disco5 and the Defender replacement are both going to be built in JLR's new factory being built in Hungary or the Czech Republic eventually but they have said that they won't stop UK production................ Regarding production in India, I doubt it for the more expensive cars as many people buy them because they are "Made in Britain" - Honda found out that the perceived quality of a Swindon built Civic was higher in Japan than the same cars built in Japan, and they were happy to pay extra in import duties to have better built British Honda Civics that even arrived with a Union Flag badge on the back to mark them out from the local version. Defenders have been assembled in Spain, Douth Africa, Italy and Brazil for many years for the overseas markets, Freelander 1's for Oriental markets were assembled for a few years in Thailand so overseas production isn't a new thing for Land Rover. 2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV on order for April delivery, bye bye Land Rover after 21 years and 11 LR products..... all because you won’t give me reassurance that should my SDv6 crankshaft break because of a design fault, not MY fault, but the engine builders fault - it will be replaced for free.
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, but not for much longer........
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

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JOCK55 wrote:
Na! I think you're both wrong and that EU vehicles will be built in EU and Right hand drive vehicles will be built in India!!! Close all the cost negative assembly plants in UK. Maybe maintain a UK design and engineering office but hive off manufacturing to somewhere with a much lower cost base.

Just my theory!

Old Jock


JLR will move production to Scotland, who will vote Yes to independence, and be welcomed into the EU

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garrycol



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With Jaguar and Landrover being the one and the same company and indeed RR models and some Jag models are produced on the same production line I assume the F Pace is actually a LR model underneath - is it based on an Evoque or DS platform?

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